US attack on renewables will lead to power crunch that spikes electricity prices

Perceived Intent of the Anti‑Renewables Push

  • Many see the move as intentional sabotage, not a policy mistake: a mix of “own the libs” culture war, rewarding incumbents, and vengeance rather than cost or reliability.
  • Some argue it enriches existing fossil and utility interests by constraining new supply and enabling higher prices.
  • A minority claim it’s about appealing symbolically to coal country or anti‑wind/solar voters, even where local coal economics are already collapsing.

Democracy, Voters, and System Design

  • Long subthreads debate whether mass voting itself is the problem vs. US institutional design (presidentialism, Senate, gerrymandering, FPTP).
  • Ideas range from limiting suffrage via tests to radically expanding it; others argue polarization is engineered by the system, not inherent in voters.

What’s Really Driving Higher Power Prices?

  • One detailed comment lists drivers: AI/data‑center demand, LNG exports raising gas prices, utilities’ profit‑seeking, private equity ownership, and blocking renewables that would shave daytime peaks.
  • Others push back: in regulated US markets prices need approval; in some regions, peak demand is evening rather than midday.
  • A separate camp blames renewables themselves for price volatility and complexity; opponents respond that the marginal generator is still gas, and banning the cheapest new capacity worsens prices.

Intermittency, Storage, and Grid Reliability

  • Big fight over whether solar/wind destabilize grids or are now essential (e.g., California).
  • Pro‑renewables side: utility‑scale solar/wind are already the lowest‑cost new generation without subsidies; battery costs and deployments are “exploding,” increasingly handling short‑term gaps.
  • Skeptics: storage is still too limited/expensive for multi‑day or seasonal shortages; rooftop solar is costly and often cross‑subsidized by non‑owners; peaker plants or nuclear “baseload” are still needed.

Nuclear vs. Renewables

  • Broad agreement nuclear can’t solve near‑term demand surges due to 10–15‑year build times.
  • Nuclear advocates argue costs are inflated by custom designs and regulation; critics counter that every modern Western project is massively subsidized and over budget, while renewables dominate new build‑out.
  • Long subthread disputes whether nuclear fuel, waste, and Russian supply dependence are manageable vs. underpriced externalities.

International and Structural Context

  • Europe: mixed readings—some say ideology‑driven nuclear phaseouts plus Russian gas reliance were disastrous; others say data show successful diversification and renewables growth.
  • UK: cited as an example of high prices and near‑miss blackouts under heavy renewables and imported equipment.
  • China: simultaneously lauded for enormous solar/wind build‑out and criticized for still‑rising coal use; some argue its renewable surge is now capping or reversing coal growth.

Permitting, Federal vs. State Limits

  • Important nuance: only a minority of US solar depends on federal NEPA or federal land, so some argue the article overstates federal impact.
  • Others note the administration is deliberately weaponizing permitting and “national security” to block even unsubsidized projects; local opposition and restrictive state/PUC rules also hamper rollout.

Coal Communities and Transition Politics

  • Several comments stress coal employment is numerically small but geographically and politically leveraged (Senate structure, donor wealth).
  • Example “rust belt” stories are used to argue that successful transition requires embracing education, healthcare, and in‑migration—something many coal regions politically resist.