US attack on renewables will lead to power crunch that spikes electricity prices
Perceived Intent of the Anti‑Renewables Push
- Many see the move as intentional sabotage, not a policy mistake: a mix of “own the libs” culture war, rewarding incumbents, and vengeance rather than cost or reliability.
- Some argue it enriches existing fossil and utility interests by constraining new supply and enabling higher prices.
- A minority claim it’s about appealing symbolically to coal country or anti‑wind/solar voters, even where local coal economics are already collapsing.
Democracy, Voters, and System Design
- Long subthreads debate whether mass voting itself is the problem vs. US institutional design (presidentialism, Senate, gerrymandering, FPTP).
- Ideas range from limiting suffrage via tests to radically expanding it; others argue polarization is engineered by the system, not inherent in voters.
What’s Really Driving Higher Power Prices?
- One detailed comment lists drivers: AI/data‑center demand, LNG exports raising gas prices, utilities’ profit‑seeking, private equity ownership, and blocking renewables that would shave daytime peaks.
- Others push back: in regulated US markets prices need approval; in some regions, peak demand is evening rather than midday.
- A separate camp blames renewables themselves for price volatility and complexity; opponents respond that the marginal generator is still gas, and banning the cheapest new capacity worsens prices.
Intermittency, Storage, and Grid Reliability
- Big fight over whether solar/wind destabilize grids or are now essential (e.g., California).
- Pro‑renewables side: utility‑scale solar/wind are already the lowest‑cost new generation without subsidies; battery costs and deployments are “exploding,” increasingly handling short‑term gaps.
- Skeptics: storage is still too limited/expensive for multi‑day or seasonal shortages; rooftop solar is costly and often cross‑subsidized by non‑owners; peaker plants or nuclear “baseload” are still needed.
Nuclear vs. Renewables
- Broad agreement nuclear can’t solve near‑term demand surges due to 10–15‑year build times.
- Nuclear advocates argue costs are inflated by custom designs and regulation; critics counter that every modern Western project is massively subsidized and over budget, while renewables dominate new build‑out.
- Long subthread disputes whether nuclear fuel, waste, and Russian supply dependence are manageable vs. underpriced externalities.
International and Structural Context
- Europe: mixed readings—some say ideology‑driven nuclear phaseouts plus Russian gas reliance were disastrous; others say data show successful diversification and renewables growth.
- UK: cited as an example of high prices and near‑miss blackouts under heavy renewables and imported equipment.
- China: simultaneously lauded for enormous solar/wind build‑out and criticized for still‑rising coal use; some argue its renewable surge is now capping or reversing coal growth.
Permitting, Federal vs. State Limits
- Important nuance: only a minority of US solar depends on federal NEPA or federal land, so some argue the article overstates federal impact.
- Others note the administration is deliberately weaponizing permitting and “national security” to block even unsubsidized projects; local opposition and restrictive state/PUC rules also hamper rollout.
Coal Communities and Transition Politics
- Several comments stress coal employment is numerically small but geographically and politically leveraged (Senate structure, donor wealth).
- Example “rust belt” stories are used to argue that successful transition requires embracing education, healthcare, and in‑migration—something many coal regions politically resist.