Chinese astronauts make rocket fuel and oxygen in space
Media coverage & perception of Chinese advances
- Several comments argue Chinese scientific progress is underreported in English media because coverage is driven by Western institutions’ press releases and existing relationships.
- Others say US outlets downplay Chinese successes to preserve a narrative of Western technological superiority, while some counter that US elites actually benefit from portraying China as a formidable rival.
- A few note that China has its own station and lunar ambitions while US programs like Artemis struggle, feeding political narratives in both directions.
Transparency, verification, and skepticism
- Multiple participants say Chinese agencies release self-congratulatory, low-detail announcements, more akin to narrative management than open science.
- Mandarin speakers confirm that even in Chinese-language channels, technical transparency is limited.
- Some highlight China’s reputation for paper mills and exaggerated claims and argue skepticism is warranted, especially when an experiment seems more like a performance (doing in orbit what could be done on Earth).
- Others respond that the orbital work is framed as “verification” in the actual Chinese release and likely follows extensive ground testing.
Propulsion limits and “perpetual” travel
- Commenters stress that making fuel and oxygen in space does not remove the need for reaction mass; rockets must still eject mass to accelerate.
- Ion drives are discussed as much more efficient but still mass-consuming. Reactionless drives are dismissed as incompatible with Newton’s laws.
- Ideas like Bussard ramjets, solar sails, and “swimming” through the sparse interstellar medium are mentioned as mostly theoretical or impractical at current densities.
Artificial photosynthesis vs plants & biofuels
- The article’s analogy to plant photosynthesis leads to a long tangent: why not engineer plants to make rocket or automotive fuel?
- People note we already use plants for fuels (corn ethanol, biodiesel, palm oil, sugarcane ethanol), but economic, environmental, and land-use downsides are severe.
- Plants are said to be far less efficient than solar panels at converting sunlight into usable energy per area; synthetic fuels made from solar electricity and CO₂ may be better in many cases.
Broader political and social arguments
- The thread devolves at points into heated comparisons of US and Chinese authoritarianism, incarceration rates, immigration, racism, and protest suppression.
- Claims and counterclaims here are strongly contested and often ideological; the relationship to the underlying space experiment is indirect.
Meta & cultural notes
- Some nostalgia appears for “dangerous” old chemistry sets and hands-on experimentation.
- One comment laments that the US is “eating itself alive” instead of pursuing bold scientific projects like this.