'Block Everything' protests sweep across France, scores arrested
French protest culture and legitimacy
- Commenters describe protest and civil disobedience as deeply rooted in French history and identity, with a cultural norm that people should disruptively resist unpopular policies.
- Some contrast this with the UK/US, where the state and parliament are seen as more legitimate and citizens more accepting.
- Others note costs: repeated strikes, vandalism, missed funerals, and city centers burned and still unrepaired.
Do protests “work” and is the French model better?
- Supporters argue protests helped secure strong worker protections, lower stress, and fewer visibly destitute people than in US cities.
- Skeptics ask whether frequent riots actually improve quality of life compared with places like the UK.
- There’s tension between admiration for French militancy and frustration that “everything” triggers protests: benefit cuts, tax hikes, retirement age, immigration.
Fiscal sustainability, pensions, and tax debates
- Many see France’s combination of low retirement age, very high social spending, and large debt as unsustainable, especially with an aging population and fewer workers per retiree.
- Others reply that high social spending is the goal, not the problem, and ask why adjustment must always mean cutting benefits rather than taxing the rich or corporations.
- Long subthread on tax structure: high top income tax, flat capital gains, strong inheritance taxes; proposals for wealth taxes (e.g., 2% above €100M) are argued by some to raise too little and trigger capital flight.
- Dispute over whether France is already “maxed out” on taxes (risking stagnation and emigration) versus still having room to increase high-end or capital taxes.
Political system, EU constraints, and default fears
- Several posts describe a fragmented National Assembly and a semi-presidential system that effectively requires a clear majority; current splintering makes durable coalitions and reforms nearly impossible.
- Comparisons to Greece, Italy, and Spain fuel worries that if France doesn’t adjust voluntarily, the ECB/IMF will impose harsher austerity after a crisis.
- Others counter that France’s political weight in the EU could, in theory, allow it to push for changes at the European level.
Wealth inequality, generations, and housing
- Many tie protests (in France and elsewhere) to extreme or rising wealth inequality and generational divides: Gen Z and young adults face high housing costs, precarious jobs, and asset inflation they missed.
- Some argue “wealth inequality” is a fuzzy slogan and that what matters is absolute living standards and market concentration, not billionaire counts per se.
- Others emphasize inequality as power: extreme fortunes inevitably distort policy, justice, and markets, even if the poor aren’t yet starving.
- Housing is a recurring flashpoint: stories of 10× home price gains versus stagnant wages, and parallel complaints about zoning, low rates → bubbles, and the painful transition to higher interest rates.
Global implications and looming instability
- Several expect a broader crash and more youth-led unrest in the US and elsewhere as inequality, housing costs, and job insecurity worsen.
- Advice threads emerge on personal resilience (deleveraging, diversification), but some argue there may be no true “safe harbor” if systemic corrections hit.