The case against social media is stronger than you think
Reactions to the Essay Itself
- Many commenters bounced off the piece due to its extreme length, academic tone, and self-conscious “long essay” framing.
- Some criticized jargon (“epistemic”, “putative”) and “X-is-worse-than-you-think” clickbait style.
- Others argued that long-form argument is appropriate for a complex topic, but still wanted tighter editing.
Algorithmic Engagement vs. “Social Media”
- A recurring theme: the real problem is algorithmic, engagement-maximizing feeds, not online discussion per se.
- Engagement optimization is seen as inevitably favoring outrage, extremism, and “trash” over nuance and sanity.
- Several contrast this with older models: chronological feeds, forums, mailing lists, and HN-style sites where everyone sees roughly the same thing.
Polarization, Racism, and Historical Context
- Strong disagreement over whether social media meaningfully increased polarization or merely exposes long-standing divides.
- One camp: racism, propaganda, and political hatred long predate social media (Jim Crow, Willie Horton, RTLM in Rwanda, Nazi/Soviet propaganda); social media is just another channel.
- The other camp: algorithmic feeds add “fuel to the fire,” accelerate radicalization, and create echo chambers, even if they didn’t create the underlying animus.
- Some argue social media also breaks mainstream-media monopolies and surfaces suppressed viewpoints (e.g., Gaza coverage), so it both amplifies propaganda and counters it.
Anonymity, Identity, and Responsibility
- One side: full anonymity is “a weight society cannot bear,” enabling harassment, bots, and extremism at massive scale.
- Others counter that plenty of abuse happens under real names, and anonymity is crucial for dissenters, vulnerable groups, and whistleblowers.
- Several suggest the core harm is less anonymity than recommender systems and the permanence/indexing of everything said.
Evidence, Regulation, and Moral Framing
- Some distrust “social media panic,” seeing cherry-picked studies and status-quo shilling; they want clearer causal evidence, noting mixed or context-dependent research results.
- Others say the research is already overwhelmingly negative, especially for youth, and compare platforms to cigarettes or pollution.
- Proposed interventions include: banning or sharply restricting ads, especially political; liability for algorithmic promotion of harmful content; age limits; open, auditable recommendation algorithms; or even treating social media access like a regulated vice.
Individual Experiences and Alternatives
- Multiple people report feeling dramatically better after quitting or severely limiting mainstream social platforms.
- Smaller, topic-focused, or federated spaces (forums, Mastodon, curated Discords, HN) are often perceived as healthier, though some warn they can become echo chambers.