The madness of SaaS chargebacks
Economics & Incentives of Chargebacks
- Commenters note that card networks and banks are structurally aligned with cardholders, not merchants: the bank has a direct relationship with the customer and minimal downside for passing pain to the merchant.
- Chargebacks and associated fees are treated as part of the “cost of doing business,” especially for card-not-present (online) transactions where protecting cardholder trust is paramount.
- For small amounts (e.g. $10), systems are optimized to auto-resolve rather than invest human time; merchants are expected to price in a non-zero level of fraud.
Merchant Experiences & Strategies
- Many SaaS operators report a very low but non-zero rate of “friendly fraud” (legit use followed by dispute), even with easy cancellation, reminders, and lenient refunds.
- Stripe’s fee structure makes small-charge disputes almost always net-negative; some merchants automatically refund recent renewals or don’t contest low-value disputes.
- A few discuss fraud patterns (stolen cards, card testing) but say most problematic cases are customers avoiding blame or internal miscommunication (e.g., corporate cards).
Customer Behavior, Distrust & Dark Patterns
- Several argue that rising chargeback use is a rational response to years of hostile cancellation flows (gyms, media, some SaaS) and unresponsive support.
- Some consumers openly say they go straight to the bank if cancellation or refund feels like any friction at all. Others see chargebacks as a last resort after failed support.
- There’s criticism that even “good” SaaS often has confusing pricing (e.g., hidden minimum seats) or non-prorated refunds, which can feel deceptive and fuel disputes.
Cancellation UX & Possible Reforms
- Strong sentiment that unsubscribing should be at least as easy as subscribing, ideally via one-click links in renewal emails and clear, in-app cancel CTAs.
- Multiple suggestions for bank-side “cancel subscription” controls in apps, similar to PayPal recurring payments or India’s mandate portal / UPI autopay, which simply stop future charges.
- Some note Apple’s App Store model: Apple absorbs chargeback complexity in exchange for a high commission; others see this as protection, some as “prison.”
Responsibility & Evidence Debate
- One camp stresses that merchants voluntarily accepted card rules: logs and ToS don’t prove cardholder authorization, and you can’t “prove a negative” from the customer side.
- Others emphasize that banks rarely require robust proof from customers and effectively enable small-scale fraud, while merchants have almost no realistic path to “winning” disputes.