Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment
Headline & context
- Many readers initially misparsed the title as a story about a large-scale cyber/terrorist attack, not the band; some argued the headline should explicitly say “band.”
- Others felt capitalization and “turns concert” made it clear enough and that headlines shouldn’t be forced to over-explain.
Article quality & AI authorship speculation
- Several commenters felt the article’s tone and style “smelled” like ChatGPT/SEO content.
- There was debate over AI detectors (seen as unreliable) and whether platforms like HN should badge likely AI-generated pieces.
- Some argued that as long as facts are curated by humans, they don’t care if AI helps; others found the jovial, over-friendly tone off-putting.
What the system actually did: detection vs recognition
- From the video, commenters concluded this was face detection: cameras find faces, crop them, and project them with random labels (“energetic,” “cloud watcher,” etc.).
- Multiple people emphasized this is not facial recognition, which would link faces to identities or a database.
- Some noted similar demos have existed for years (Azure “mood” demo, SNL audience captions, Aphex Twin visuals).
Consent, privacy, and public photography
- Strong discussion on whether crowd imaging at a concert is problematic:
- Some said this is no different from standard concert recording and is likely covered by boilerplate “you may be recorded” ticket terms.
- Others stressed that appearing incidentally on video vs having your face isolated, analyzed, and displayed are different in practice.
- Several commenters highlighted that laws differ by jurisdiction:
- In parts of Europe/Switzerland/France, focusing on individuals or distributing their image can require consent; some exceptions exist for large events or evidence of crime.
- Others pointed out the gap between old “public photography” laws (film era) and today’s cheap, scalable, analytics-heavy surveillance.
Artistic value vs gimmick
- Supportive view: it’s effective performance art that confronts people with what airports, corporations, and governments already do invisibly.
- Critical view: it’s just a gimmick (random adjectives, unclear if live faces) and the article overdramatizes it as “biometric capture without consent.”
- A few argued that the lack of clear consent/retention info is itself part of the artwork, mirroring how real data practices work.
Surveillance, capitalism & authoritarianism
- The thread broadened into worries about:
- Corporations and retailers using cameras and analytics to profile customers.
- Modern regimes having far greater surveillance capacity than 20th‑century dictatorships.
- Some see this as a qualitatively new threat; others note that power also becomes more fragile and contested when so much tech is involved.
Miscellaneous tangents
- Debate over Massive Attack’s touring focus and lack of recent new material.
- Recurring speculation linking a band member to Banksy.
- Anecdotes about similar art installations being blocked over consent concerns at events like regional burns.