Nvidia buys $5B in Intel

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Deal structure and scale

  • Nvidia is investing $5B for ~5% of Intel’s common stock, becoming a top shareholder alongside the US government (whose stake is largely non‑voting).
  • The stake is small relative to Nvidia’s market cap but large in voting terms; some call it a “corporate engagement ring,” not a merger.
  • Unclear whether Intel is issuing new shares vs using treasury stock; commenters argue over dilution “theft” vs necessary capital raising.

Strategic motives

  • Many see it as primarily about:
    • Custom x86 data‑center CPUs tightly coupled with Nvidia GPUs and NVLink.
    • Getting access to Intel Foundry as a hedge against over‑reliance on TSMC and geopolitical risk.
    • Joint x86 SoCs with RTX chiplets for PCs, echoing past Intel–AMD “Kaby Lake‑G” hybrids.
  • Others think it’s partly political: shoring up a strategically vital US fab, validating earlier government equity injections, and easing antitrust pressure on Nvidia. Whether the government “forced” the investment is widely debated and remains unclear.

Impact on competition, GPUs and AI

  • Major worry: this becomes “shut‑up money” to neuter Intel Arc and Gaudi:
    • Arc is the only third player visibly improving in consumer GPUs (price/GB of VRAM, FP64, open stack, SR‑IOV).
    • If Intel slows or cancels dGPUs, the market reverts to a de facto Nvidia–AMD duopoly, with AMD seen as a weak or reluctant competitor, especially on features and VRAM.
  • Others counter:
    • 5% doesn’t give Nvidia direct control, and Intel still needs a GPU story for AI chiplets and yield management.
    • The real game is datacenter AI, where Nvidia faces competition from AMD, hyperscaler ASICs, and Chinese vendors; consumer GPUs are now “a rounding error.”

Intel’s condition and fabs

  • Split views:
    • “Circling the drain”: culture problems, layoffs, failed side bets, need for state support, lagging foundry tech.
    • “Recovering”: increasingly competitive CPUs, iGPUs and Arc dGPUs; Battlemage cited as closing the gap.
  • Broad agreement that Intel cannot fund leading‑edge nodes alone and needs anchor customers; Nvidia’s business could help break the chicken‑and‑egg for Intel Foundry.

Linux, openness and developers

  • Strong concern among Linux users:
    • Intel’s open drivers, decent FP64 and SR‑IOV are valued; Nvidia is remembered for closed, fragile drivers and slow Wayland support.
    • Fear that an Intel–Nvidia axis will cement proprietary CUDA/NVLink and weaken open alternatives (ROCm, oneAPI, Vulkan, RISC‑V, etc.).
  • Others note Nvidia has begun contributing an in‑kernel Rust driver and that AMD still offers a fully open stack, but ROCm is criticized as immature.

Politics and corporatism

  • Thread repeatedly touches on:
    • The state directly owning Intel equity, directing industrial policy, and “picking winners”.
    • Analogies to earlier bailouts and to Microsoft’s 1990s Apple investment as antitrust cover.
  • Some view the deal as the opening move in a state‑orchestrated “AI war economy”; others see that as speculative and overstated.