The Poison Pill to End the MMR Is Tylenol
Drug naming and Tylenol basics
- Several comments clarify that “Tylenol” is a brand; the drug is acetaminophen (US) / paracetamol (international), with a distinct IUPAC name and structural identifiers.
- A mini-primer explains four naming layers: structure-based (InChI/SMILES), IUPAC, generic/INN names, and brand names, which vary by country.
Reactions to Trump’s Tylenol/autism claim
- Many see the press conference as another example of alarming presidential ignorance, comparing it to the earlier “disinfectant/bleach” remarks.
- Some note mainstream coverage tends to “sanewash” his statements into bland headlines, muting how extreme or incoherent they sound in full.
- Others argue that blaming Tylenol is less dangerous than his prior anti-vaccine rhetoric, though still harmful to public understanding.
Speculation about policy consequences for MMR/Vaccines
- A central theme is that labeling Tylenol as an “autism cause” could be a pretext:
- Emphasize MMR-related fever and febrile seizures.
- Declare there is “no safe fever reducer,” then narrow MMR recommendations and insurer coverage.
- Some commenters find this plausible and worrying; others think it overestimates the administration’s strategic sophistication and see more incompetence than 5D chess.
Tylenol safety: children and pregnancy
- Multiple replies correct claims about dosing: children’s formulations are much lower than 500 mg; dosing is weight-based, often via liquid. Used correctly, it’s considered very safe.
- Several point out acetaminophen’s narrow margin between effective and toxic doses and its role in liver failure if misused.
- On pregnancy, links show cautious language and ongoing debate. Some see manufacturer warnings as “cover your ass,” others as a serious signal to consult doctors. No clear autism link is established in the thread.
Broader politics and culture war
- Long subthreads debate why Trump retains support: media bubbles, voters prioritizing other issues (immigration, “anti-woke” stances) over competence, and dissatisfaction with Democrats’ candidates, primaries, and positioning on immigration and culture issues.
- Concerns are raised about erosion of trust in institutions, attacks on scientific and academic expertise, and creeping authoritarianism.
Media, moderation, and what to do
- Meta-discussion on this submission being flagged: some defend heavy flagging of divisive political content to keep HN usable; others worry that “divisive” labeling suppresses factual rebuttals to misinformation.
- Outside HN, several advocate limiting news/social media consumption to preserve sanity, while others argue that disengagement cedes ground to harmful narratives that translate into real policy, especially on vaccines.