The Demon-Haunted World
Enduring impact & favorite works
- Many commenters describe The Demon-Haunted World as formative for their thinking about science and self-correction.
- Favorite Sagan pieces include “The Dragon in My Garage,” Pale Blue Dot, Cosmos, Billions and Billions, and Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors.
- Several note a perceived lack of a single Sagan-like figure today, but point to multiple modern science communicators (physicists, YouTubers, podcasters) filling parts of that role.
“Pale Blue Dot” and human significance
- Some admire the “pale blue dot” passage as profoundly humbling and poetic.
- Others criticize it as a logical error: physical size of the universe doesn’t determine human significance, and they see it as needlessly belittling human achievements.
- Defenders answer that it’s a rhetorical device to convey scale and humility, not a strict philosophical argument.
Sagan, atheism, and philosophy
- There is an extended dispute over whether Sagan (and similar figures) were philosophically shallow “scientistic” critics of religion, or simply scientists speaking outside formal philosophy.
- Critics accuse him and later “New Atheists” of straw‑manning theology, ignoring centuries of work, and over‑privileging empirical science.
- Others respond that deep expertise in theology isn’t required to reject religious claims one finds baseless, and that his main strength was as an astronomer and communicator, not a professional philosopher.
Skepticism, compassion, and the skeptical movement
- Multiple quotes from the book highlight Sagan’s criticism of organized Skepticism: polarization, condescension, “us vs. them” attitudes, and lack of compassion for believers.
- Some readers are surprised skeptics revere a book that so sharply critiques their style; others say those passages are precisely why it’s foundational.
- One commenter stresses that the book is best read as a guide for examining one’s own beliefs, not as ammunition against others.
Human rationality, myth, and magical thinking
- Several discuss how entrenched beliefs rarely change just from logic or lending someone a book; motivation and social costs matter more.
- There’s reflection on cognitive “wiring,” confirmation bias, and the idea that even very rational people may be mostly irrational, just slightly less so than average.
- Others argue mythology and irrational narratives are inevitable products of the psyche; the realistic goal is to replace worse “wrong stories” with better ones via the scientific method.
Politics, prophecy, and today’s “demon‑haunted” world
- Sagan’s passages about a service/information economy, loss of manufacturing, concentrated tech power, and declining critical faculties are widely seen as eerily accurate for current conditions.
- Commenters connect this to disinformation, conspiracy culture, and fear‑based politics that actively “haunt” the public with manufactured demons.
- Debate arises over whether this slide is orchestrated, emergent from human nature, or both.
UFOs, astrology, and harmful vs harmless belief
- One long comment uses UFO debates to illustrate Sagan’s point: both true believers and some self‑described debunkers exhibit dogmatism and contempt.
- Another defends everyday astrology and crystals as mostly benign introspective tools, arguing that systemic economic forces are far more damaging than such superstitions.
- Others reply that Sagan’s criticism targets anxious dependence on such beliefs, not casual usage.
Reception and access to the book
- Some readers now find the “science cheerleading” sections less compelling with age, but still value the chapters on witchcraft, gullibility, and cognitive pitfalls.
- There is practical discussion about high current prices, used copies, and free digital versions; one reader offers a brief chapter‑by‑chapter impression after reading an online copy.