iRobot Founder: Don't Believe the AI and Robotics Hype

Founder Track Record and Funding Dynamics

  • Some see the founder’s prior companies as strong evidence he can succeed again, and are surprised he struggles to raise money.
  • Others argue his track record is mixed: iRobot is seen by some as a “one-hit” category creator that later stagnated and was crushed on price; Rethink is viewed as a failure in manipulation; the new warehouse venture is in a crowded space.
  • Debate over what counts as “wild success”: long profitability and an IPO vs later value destruction and market-share loss.
  • Several commenters suspect funding friction is more about valuation terms than investor belief; others emphasize VCs’ herd behavior and love of hype over grounded businesses.

Humanoids vs Specialized Robots

  • Many agree with the article’s skepticism about humanoid hype: manipulation and robust operation in messy environments remain unsolved.
  • Counterpoint: humanoid “form factor” may win because the world is built for humans; one versatile platform could replace many single-purpose robots and gain economies of scale.
  • Critics reply that current humanoids are weak (e.g., 3 kg/arm), clumsy, and far from replacing human labor; specialized devices like vacuums or warehouse carts often work better and cheaper.

Hype, Appearance, and LLM Parallels

  • The quote about physical form “making a promise” sparks an analogy: fluent language or humanoid bodies lead users to overestimate capabilities.
  • Users recount LLMs confidently “running Monte Carlo simulations” or “analyzing markets” while actually fabricating, showing how form/interaction style misleads non-experts.
  • Some see AI hype cycles (neural nets, agents) as repeated rebrandings of old ideas; others stress that current LLMs are already broadly useful despite limits.

Costs, Markets, and Teleoperation

  • Discussion of sub-$25k humanoid list prices vs real deployed costs ($80–100k with tooling and compute). Skepticism that cheap sticker prices reflect true economics today, but recognition that hardware is rapidly getting cheaper.
  • Teleoperated humanoids are proposed as a near-term path: remote workers controlling robots for dangerous or 24/7 jobs, though questions arise about worker conditions and societal desirability.

Hard Problems: Manipulation and Home Chores

  • Commenters highlight reliable, general-purpose gripping and hand-like dexterity as core unsolved challenges—especially with consumer-level maintenance and reliability.
  • Many note that “every subproblem is solved in isolation,” but integrating perception, control, robustness, and cost for messy tasks like dishes and laundry remains beyond current systems.