iRobot Founder: Don't Believe the AI and Robotics Hype
Founder Track Record and Funding Dynamics
- Some see the founder’s prior companies as strong evidence he can succeed again, and are surprised he struggles to raise money.
- Others argue his track record is mixed: iRobot is seen by some as a “one-hit” category creator that later stagnated and was crushed on price; Rethink is viewed as a failure in manipulation; the new warehouse venture is in a crowded space.
- Debate over what counts as “wild success”: long profitability and an IPO vs later value destruction and market-share loss.
- Several commenters suspect funding friction is more about valuation terms than investor belief; others emphasize VCs’ herd behavior and love of hype over grounded businesses.
Humanoids vs Specialized Robots
- Many agree with the article’s skepticism about humanoid hype: manipulation and robust operation in messy environments remain unsolved.
- Counterpoint: humanoid “form factor” may win because the world is built for humans; one versatile platform could replace many single-purpose robots and gain economies of scale.
- Critics reply that current humanoids are weak (e.g., 3 kg/arm), clumsy, and far from replacing human labor; specialized devices like vacuums or warehouse carts often work better and cheaper.
Hype, Appearance, and LLM Parallels
- The quote about physical form “making a promise” sparks an analogy: fluent language or humanoid bodies lead users to overestimate capabilities.
- Users recount LLMs confidently “running Monte Carlo simulations” or “analyzing markets” while actually fabricating, showing how form/interaction style misleads non-experts.
- Some see AI hype cycles (neural nets, agents) as repeated rebrandings of old ideas; others stress that current LLMs are already broadly useful despite limits.
Costs, Markets, and Teleoperation
- Discussion of sub-$25k humanoid list prices vs real deployed costs ($80–100k with tooling and compute). Skepticism that cheap sticker prices reflect true economics today, but recognition that hardware is rapidly getting cheaper.
- Teleoperated humanoids are proposed as a near-term path: remote workers controlling robots for dangerous or 24/7 jobs, though questions arise about worker conditions and societal desirability.
Hard Problems: Manipulation and Home Chores
- Commenters highlight reliable, general-purpose gripping and hand-like dexterity as core unsolved challenges—especially with consumer-level maintenance and reliability.
- Many note that “every subproblem is solved in isolation,” but integrating perception, control, robustness, and cost for messy tasks like dishes and laundry remains beyond current systems.