OpenAI's hunger for computing power

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Scale and stated goals

  • Commenters debate whether a 20x+ compute increase is realistic; some argue far larger multipliers (10,000–20,000x) would be needed for visions like 100T-parameter models trained on massive video datasets.
  • A minority sees this as rational “just math” given current growth rates and scaling laws; others see it as delusional or at least wildly optimistic.

Strategic motives for compute land grab

  • The dominant theory: OpenAI is trying to pre-emptively lock up global compute and finance, making itself the unavoidable #1 AI provider and “too big to fail.”
  • Some argue this is about commodifying everything around the core model so that the bottleneck OpenAI controls becomes more valuable.
  • Others think the ask is inflated (ask for 20x if you really “need” 10x) to ensure a surplus and to normalize enormous capital requirements.

Skepticism, hype, and leadership

  • Several see this as bubble behavior: needing “11 figures” of new cash while current operations lose money, backed by exaggerated claims to satisfy investors.
  • Leadership is criticized as ego-driven and permanently in “sales mode,” with parallels drawn to other tech celebrities.
  • Some suggest personal incentives may reward spending more than profitability.

Energy, environment, and infrastructure

  • Strong concern about AI driving up electricity prices, stressing grids, consuming huge fractions of DRAM output, and worsening water use and pollution.
  • Debate over whether data centers truly cause higher power bills vs being a convenient scapegoat for broader grid and policy failures.
  • Many argue that if this AI trajectory continues, massive investment in new (especially nuclear) generation is unavoidable.

Tech trajectory and AGI

  • One camp thinks soaring compute requests signal that core techniques are stagnating and rely on brute-force scaling.
  • Another notes OpenAI is already compute-constrained just serving current demand and future video/world-building applications would dwarf today’s needs.

Competition, efficiency, and market structure

  • Questions arise about why OpenAI needs so much more compute than players like DeepSeek or Qwen; answers cite distribution, serving larger user bases, and training vs inference costs.
  • Some see compute hoarding as a tactic to lock out competitors; others point to cloud concentration making smaller companies dependent and cost-constrained.