Windows Subsystem for FreeBSD

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Appeal of WSL and Windows Subsystem for FreeBSD

  • Several commenters are enthusiastic about WSL-like tech, calling this FreeBSD port “cool” and potentially a great on-ramp for Windows users to discover FreeBSD.
  • WSL2 is praised as a practical way to “live in Linux” while still having Windows for Office and gaming, with this FreeBSD variant seen as extending that model.
  • Some see the main benefit as reducing setup friction versus managing separate VMs with VMware/VirtualBox/Hyper‑V.

Windows Lock‑in: Office and Games

  • Office is repeatedly cited as the real lock‑in: complex corporate/academic documents, Excel power features (Power Query/Pivot, macros), and ecosystem/network effects make leaving Windows hard.
  • Web Office is considered “good enough” for light use but inadequate for power users; alternatives like LibreOffice/OnlyOffice are seen as imperfect substitutes and socially hard to push on others.
  • Games are the second anchor: anti‑cheat, new AAA titles, and GPU driver stability push many to keep at least one Windows machine. Some mitigate via consoles or “Linux/Mac for work, Windows/console for play.”

Linux Gaming: Viable or Not?

  • One camp reports Linux gaming as “pretty damn viable,” especially on AMD hardware, with Proton generally working and performance comparable to Windows in many titles.
  • Another camp reports persistent issues: specific games failing or crashing under Proton, controller lag, remote‑desktop jank, and FPS drops (10–40 fps claimed in demanding games).
  • Debate includes whether selective benchmarks are cherry‑picked and whether expectations differ for “older titles” vs brand‑new releases.

FreeBSD Adoption and Hardware Support

  • FreeBSD is noted as common in appliances, routers, and some large infrastructures, but rare on desktops and especially laptops.
  • Multiple anecdotes describe poor laptop Wi‑Fi/brightness/audio support, leading users back to Linux; others report success with certain ThinkPads, Framework, or NUC‑style desktops.
  • Enthusiasts highlight strengths: stability, conservative change vs Linux, strong documentation, ZFS, jails, bhyve, and advanced networking (netgraph) enabling elaborate nested jail/VM setups.

WSL Naming and Architecture Debates

  • Many find “Windows Subsystem for Linux/FreeBSD” linguistically backward; others argue it’s technically correct as a Windows subsystem “for” running Linux.
  • Trademark and historical product naming (e.g., Windows Services for UNIX) are cited as drivers of the pattern.
  • WSL1 (syscall translation) is viewed as elegant but fragile and hard to keep compatible with fast‑moving Linux features (containers, namespaces, cgroups).
  • WSL2’s VM-based design is defended as more practical and compatible, even if it’s “just a VM” and no longer a true NT “subsystem.”

Views on Microsoft’s Strategy and Bloat

  • Some see WSL and this FreeBSD effort as part of Microsoft’s push to keep developers on Windows in the cloud era; others frame it as filling clear customer demand.
  • A critical thread portrays it as “kludge on kludge,” merging large OSes and increasing complexity/bugs, with broader distrust of Microsoft’s motives (telemetry, lock‑in, past hostility to open source).