Show HN: AI toy I worked on is in stores
Product context & initial reactions
- Thread centers on an AI “Santa phone” toy sold at Walmart; the original link had redirect issues.
- Many congratulate the creator and think it’s a clever, fun use of AI; several say seeing your code on a Walmart shelf is impressive.
- Others say they’d rather DIY a similar thing with TTS/LLM APIs or local hardware, seeing it as a weekend project more than a product they’d buy.
Pricing, minutes & business model
- Strong criticism of the model: ~$99 hardware with only 60 minutes included, then paid top‑ups (reports of ~$15 for 15 minutes).
- People compare it to 1‑900 numbers and “enshittified” subscription toys, worrying about kids pestering parents for more minutes.
- Some argue this effectively creates time‑limited e‑waste and may brick when servers or APIs shut down.
- A minority defend the subscription as necessary to cover inference costs and say the terms are disclosed upfront.
Impact on children, play, and “Santa” expectations
- Multiple commenters find it “unwholesome”: kids talking to a realistic simulacrum they may not understand is fake.
- Others note we already have mall Santas and “Santa hotlines”, so this is just a new format for familiar roleplay.
- Concerns about Santa promising gifts parents can’t deliver, raising expectations in a way letters don’t.
- Some parents in the thread report positive experiences: collaborative play, prompt‑crafting with kids, and memorable recordings of children’s laughter.
Safety, moderation & misuse risks
- Worries that LLMs are unpredictable with young kids: hallucinations, unsafe responses, or being jailbroken.
- Broader fears that similar tech will be used for darker purposes: AI “phone sex”, fake dead relatives or deities, or voice‑cloning scams (“AI powered grandma scammers”).
- Some see it as another step toward “Black Mirror” scenarios and manipulative parasocial products for children.
Data privacy, surveillance & trust
- Repeated anxiety about children’s voices going to cloud providers and unknown third parties; one notes the toy’s privacy policy page was 404.
- People highlight that this is a networked, always‑online, Chinese‑made device in homes at Christmas, potentially a “surveillance station.”
Technical feasibility & DIY / hacking angle
- Discussion of whether a local‑only Santa LLM could run on small devices: some say you’d need large GPUs; others argue a small specialized model on a laptop or phone GPU is enough for kid‑level Santa chat.
- Creator explains they did media/WebRTC code as a contractor; the ESP32 hardware can be modified but it’s nontrivial.
- Several recommend skipping the product and building with ESP32, dev boards, or existing open‑source projects; links to embedded voice‑AI repos are shared.
Broader AI culture & “luddite” debate
- One thread debates whether AI toys are just the next step after electronic toys/LEGO Mindstorms, or a qualitatively worse, extractive, manipulative medium.
- Some express deep pessimism about AI’s societal trajectory (loss of authentic human interaction, e‑waste, kids primed for AI companion apps); others see enormous upside (personal tutors, creative exploration) and view the backlash as fear‑driven.