4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence
Scope of UK Law & Extraterritorial Reach
- Many argue the UK can legislate whatever it likes, but cannot realistically enforce fines or orders against a US‑based site with no UK presence, beyond blocking it domestically or arresting staff who enter the UK.
- Analogies used: UK banning smoking in Paris, or trying to prosecute a Parisian tobacconist; some say this is as absurd as North Korea demanding takedowns abroad.
- Others point out the US and other countries already assert extraterritorial power (sanctions, copyright, gambling, terrorism), so the UK is following an established, if disliked, pattern.
- There’s concern that if such assertions become normal, small online businesses will face impossible global compliance burdens.
Censorship, Propaganda & Free Speech
- One camp stresses the need to protect democracies from foreign and domestic propaganda, Sybil attacks, and targeted manipulation, arguing “do nothing” is no longer tenable.
- Opponents say restricting information flow and anonymity is more dangerous: it enables internal authoritarianism and erodes the core value of free thought and speech.
- Some frame the trade‑off as: is protecting people from manipulation worth granting governments and regulators censorship power that can be abused?
Child Protection vs Parental Responsibility
- Large subthread on kids, porn, grooming, and screen addiction:
- Some want device‑level or network‑level filters, default parental controls, or even screenshot‑based monitoring.
- Others say tech controls are porous (VPNs, burner phones, public Wi‑Fi) and ultimately this is a parenting, education, and culture problem.
- Several argue the UK already has ISP and mobile filters by default, so extending state control further looks more like surveillance and moral policing than genuine protection.
Implementation, Enforcement & “Nanny State”
- Ofcom’s demand for unredacted data and its stance on confidentiality are seen by some as overreach conflicting with data‑protection norms.
- Many describe the Online Safety Act as politically attractive but technically unworkable “whack‑a‑mole”, likely to lead to ISP‑level blocking and a de facto national firewall.
- The UK is frequently characterized as a “nanny state”, with comparisons to cookie banners and existing mobile content filters as examples of clumsy or malicious compliance.
4chan’s Role & Reputation
- Some see 4chan as a vile cesspit (racism, harassment, doxxing) and have no sympathy; others stress its pluralism, technical subcultures, and role in leaks and research.
- There’s disagreement over whether losing UK access matters financially to 4chan, and whether this confrontation mainly serves as a legal and political test case.