What do we do if SETI is successful?
Skepticism about “alien hype” and interpretation
- Several comments criticize the media/online “circus” around interstellar objects and odd stars, arguing that speculative alien explanations are used as clickbait or career leverage.
- Emphasis on epistemology: most strange signals or light curves are probably natural, and we typically lack enough information to distinguish “artifact” vs “nature” anyway.
- Concern that “we should answer” rhetoric could be exploited by interests wanting to boost space spending or prestige, encouraging belief without verifiable evidence.
Should we reply or stay silent? (METI vs listening)
- One camp: build large receive‑only arrays, decode quietly, avoid transmitting; reduce our emissions to remain hard to find and prevent tech asymmetry.
- Dark Forest–style arguments appear frequently: if intentions are unknowable and first strikes are cheap, rational actors may pre‑emptively destroy others. Related ideas: “berserker” probes and von Neumann killer swarms.
- Counter‑camp: dark‑forest logic is seen as paranoid, fiction‑driven, and physically shaky; annihilation strategies are brittle, hard to guarantee, and might backfire. Cooperation, trade, or indifference are viewed as at least as plausible.
Feasibility of detection, communication, and travel
- Discussion that efficient communication (compressed/encrypted) looks like noise, so unintentional alien traffic would be extremely hard to detect. Beacons must be deliberately wasteful or structured to stand out.
- Debate over whether Earth’s own RF leakage is even detectable beyond a few light‑years; some claim we could not currently detect our own level of leakage from the nearest stars.
- Multiple people note light‑speed delays: even at <50 ly, establishing a math‑based language and then meaningful dialogue could take centuries to millennia.
- Interstellar travel is argued to be possible (near‑c with long acceleration, generation ships, or post‑biological travelers) but slow; others insist c makes invasions beyond the local neighborhood effectively irrelevant.
Alien motives, evolution, and ethics
- Some argue evolution implies competitive, possibly violent species; others note Earth already has cooperative and symbiotic systems, so extrapolating constant war is unjustified.
- Fears range from extermination “for sport” or security, to being ignored like ants, to being economically exploited via contracts, not conquest.
- Several point out we project human politics (empires, great‑power paranoia, colonialism) onto unknown minds; alien cognition and values could be radically different.
Human societal and religious reactions
- Expected social responses include panic, cults, apocalyptic movements, denial (“it’s a hoax by X power”), and geopolitical blame games over who controls contact.
- Others think after initial shock, most people would quickly resume normal life if no physical contact is imminent.
- On religion, some predict doctrinal flexibility (e.g., integrating aliens into existing theology), others think contact would sharply expose internal contradictions for many moderate believers.
Civilizational fragility and priorities
- Side debate on whether climate change, nuclear war, or loss of fossil fuels could knock humanity back below a technological threshold, complicating long‑term communication.
- Some see such worries as “doomscrolling”; others point to severe warming scenarios that could radically reshape or fragment civilization.
- A recurring theme: before worrying about galactic politics, we should “get our own house in order.”
Proposed strategies and meta‑views
- Concrete ideas:
- Global protocols for data sharing and rapid public backup of any signal (even blockchain mentioned).
- Strong norms against unilateral transmission.
- Massive investment in AI/ASI alignment so future machine descendants can better handle contact.
- Some commenters call the question inherently path‑dependent and speculative: until there is an actual signal with specific characteristics, detailed planning is mostly storytelling.