China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990
Scope and Quality of China’s New Forests
- Commenters note China’s large reforestation programs (e.g., Great Green Wall) started in the late 1970s to combat desertification, flooding, and dust storms.
- Mixed views on effectiveness: early plantings used unsuitable species with high mortality, but methods reportedly improved over time (e.g., straw grids in deserts).
- Concern that much of the increase is monoculture plantations, not complex forest ecosystems; risks include low biodiversity, water stress, and fire vulnerability.
- Some mention local fraud (painted rocks, plastic trees) and question official figures, given reliance on government self‑reporting.
Global Context and Historical Deforestation
- Several comments situate China alongside other countries: Canada, India, Russia, the US, and parts of Europe have also seen net forest gains.
- Historical perspective: Europe and China were heavily deforested long before modern industry; recent gains partly just restore earlier damage.
- Debate over whether economic development naturally leads to reforestation:
- One side stresses wealth and efficiency (fewer people farming marginal land, urbanization).
- Others emphasize state capacity, property enforcement, and food security as key.
Climate, Emissions, and “Greenwashing” Concerns
- Strong tension between praising tree planting and criticizing China’s coal use and total CO₂ emissions.
- Extended argument over metrics:
- Absolute vs per‑capita emissions.
- Historical cumulative responsibility vs current annual output.
- Production‑based vs consumption‑based accounting (exported manufacturing, “embedded” emissions).
- Some call the narrative “propaganda” or “greenwashing”; others argue any large‑scale positive land restoration deserves recognition even if it doesn’t offset coal.
Governance, Long-Term Planning, and Trade‑Offs
- Many point to China’s ability to execute multi‑decade projects (forests, infrastructure, energy transition) as a benefit of one‑party rule and central planning.
- Counterpoints highlight censorship, lack of political rights, treatment of minorities, and cases of activists being silenced as serious costs.
- Several contrast this with perceived dysfunction, short‑termism, and NIMBY paralysis in Western democracies.
India and Other Developing Countries
- India is also increasing “green cover,” largely via urbanization and scattered local initiatives; criticism that efforts are often poorly maintained or overly reported.
- Debate over data quality, species choice, and whether shrubs or plantations are being counted as “forest.”
Broader Ecological and Demographic Issues
- Multiple reminders that forests are more than carbon sinks: biodiversity, water cycles, and soil restoration matter.
- Concerns about China’s parallel biodiversity loss (coral, mangroves, fisheries) and overseas deforestation via timber imports and Belt and Road projects.
- Long discussion of population: the one‑child era, current low birthrate, looming aging crisis, and whether automation or migration can compensate.