Carlo Rovelli’s radical perspective on reality
Nature of Time: Illusion, Emergence, Arrows
- Several commenters struggle with “time is an illusion,” noting that theories often just rename time as “dynamics,” “rule application,” or “evolution of state.”
- Others argue “time is the evolution of state”: without change, no clock can exist.
- Multiple participants discuss entropy and the thermodynamic arrow. Some see entropy increase as defining the direction of time; others say entropy presupposes a time parameter and can’t explain the flow of time, only its asymmetry.
- Philosophical debates (McTaggart’s A/B series, Huw Price) are cited to argue that physics’ static 4D descriptions don’t capture lived temporal flow.
Relational Quantum Mechanics and Objective Reality
- Rovelli’s relational view: properties exist only in interactions; no observer-independent state.
- Some embrace this as the most faithful reading of QM’s formalism; others counter with realist alternatives (e.g., Bohmian mechanics, many‑worlds, QBism) and reject “no objective reality” as non-consensus.
- One technical thread dives into Bell’s theorem, nonlocality, and interpretations, emphasizing that “no local hidden variables” ≠ “no objective reality.”
Math, Accessibility, and Popularization
- A recurring complaint: lay misunderstandings stem from weak math backgrounds and overreliance on analogies.
- There’s disagreement over how “hard” the math really is: some say most tools are accessible beyond calculus; others point to deep use of advanced algebra, geometry, and topology.
- Popularizers are accused both of necessary oversimplification and of sometimes drifting into “quantum mysticism.”
Idealism, Realism, and Metaphysics
- Several commenters note that Rovelli’s stance aligns with long-standing philosophical idealism and perspectivism, not something radically new.
- Others defend physicalism or at least a minimal “objective reality” as necessary for science, common sense, and avoiding solipsism.
- There is concern that “no objective reality” can be misused to justify moral relativism, though others note existentialist and non-nihilist responses are possible.
Experiments, Technology, and Practical Constraints
- Some lament lack of clear falsifiable predictions from such theories; others respond that most feasible experiments have been done and current work is about reconciling existing results.
- Relativity tests, atomic and biological clocks, GPS, and entropy measurements are cited as concrete evidence that time (at least as a parameter) is very real and measurable, even if not fundamental.