Carice TC2 – A non-digital electric car
Meaning of “non-digital / analog”
- Several commenters note the title is misleading; the site doesn’t claim the car is analog, just retro.
- “Analog” is interpreted as “no screens / touch UI,” not “no electronics.” People stress that EVs must have digital controllers (BMS, inverter, charger, etc.).
- Some discuss that even old cars with dials used stepper motors and ECUs; lay use of “analog” is mostly “no displays or apps on the dash.”
EV components, standardization & repairability
- One detailed comment explains that many EV components are shared across platforms: motors, inverters, onboard chargers, DC/DC converters and connectors are often supplier-made and somewhat interchangeable.
- Battery packs are usually model‑specific; modules may be shared within a brand; cells are generic but hard to replace; BMS is typically bespoke.
- Swapping components often requires OEM coding or firmware, with expensive or locked tools; aftermarket support is sparse, so DIYers rely on salvaged parts and cracked software.
- This is framed as a continuation of broader modern-car trends, not unique to EVs.
Connectivity, privacy & “offline” cars
- Strong desire for EVs that are not cloud-connected; many would accept analog-style controls or BYOD infotainment if it meant no tracking.
- Examples cited: removing SIMs, unplugging telemetry modules, and concerns over hidden modems, “placebo” SIMs, and mandated systems like eCall.
- Some argue that connected features (remote climate, maps, charger data, eCall) are genuinely useful; others want an “airplane mode” with hard guarantees, logging, and third‑party audits.
- Debate over whether companies would go as far as covert SIMs; some call this paranoia, others point to broader patterns of telemetry and dark patterns.
Price, market positioning & practicality
- Base price around €44.5k ex‑VAT (~€54k with Dutch VAT) leads many to categorize it as a “toy for the well‑off” or a second/third car, not a people’s EV.
- Others counter it’s comparable to a Tesla Model 3 or hot hatch and not “country club only” money, especially given low-volume EU manufacturing.
- Seen as closer to a leisure roadster (MX‑5 / Porsche 356 homage) than a family car or Ikea hauler.
Design, specs, charging & safety
- Praised for being small, light (~590–630 kg) and visually classic; criticized by some as toy-like or plasticky.
- Concerns about the shiny metal dash causing glare; multiple calls for matte/wood/leather options.
- Modest power (~56 hp) and lack of visible modern safety systems (airbags, advanced driver aids) prompt worries about crashworthiness; many frame it as an acceptably risky weekend toy.
- Range (200–300 km from a 31.5 kWh pack) is seen as adequate for dense European regions, but absence of DC fast charging makes it clearly non-ideal for long trips.