Waymo robotaxis are now giving rides on freeways in LA, SF and Phoenix
Freeways vs. Surface Streets
- Several commenters say freeways are structurally simpler (no cross traffic, fewer pedestrians) but much harder to “fail safe” on, because you can’t just stop in lane without major risk.
- Others emphasize long‑tail edge cases at high speed: debris, animals, pedestrians, flooded sections, odd vehicles, and strange events (e.g. sea lions on the road).
- A recurring theme: freeways are “easier to get working,” but much harder to prove safe at driverless levels and to handle all rare cases at 65–75 mph.
Safety, Edge Cases & Reaction Times
- Concerns: phantom braking or over‑cautious behavior near construction, emergency lights, or odd obstacles creating pileups; sudden slowdowns in faster traffic feeling unsafe.
- Debate over reaction times: some argue AV stacks add latency vs. humans; others counter that AVs have more sensors, 360° awareness, and dedicated collision‑avoidance paths.
- Moral tradeoffs are discussed: is it acceptable to kill a few more people now if it accelerates deployment that ultimately saves many more, versus taking a slower, safer path?
Driving Behavior, Speed Limits & Traffic Flow
- Waymos are reported to obey posted limits and hug right lanes; some fear that being 10–20 mph slower than prevailing traffic is itself risky, others insist driving the limit is fine.
- Several speculate that enough AVs could smooth traffic, reduce “phantom jams,” and dampen stop‑and‑go waves.
- Some worry about how they’ll handle complex multi‑lane urban freeways, left exits, and inconsistent human norms.
Comparisons with Tesla, Cruise, and Human Drivers
- Many claim Waymo is “in another league” vs. Tesla FSD, GM/Ford systems, and Cruise—especially in city driving smoothness and rule observance.
- Others point out Tesla has long done freeway assistance (with a human), while Waymo is only now going fully driverless on highways.
User Experience & Incidents
- Frequent riders praise consistency, lack of small‑talk, and generally calm, predictable driving; some recount impressive hazard avoidance with pedestrians and cyclists.
- Negative anecdotes include over‑cautious maneuvers in congestion, occasional “weird” slowdowns, hitting a delivery robot, and one cat fatality that drew significant public ire.
- Cleanliness and maintenance are emerging issues; users report dirty interiors and emphasize the need for robust fleet upkeep.
Jobs, Regulation & Ethics
- Concerns about displacing Uber/Lyft drivers and taxi drivers, on top of prior disruptions from ride‑hailing itself.
- Some call for independent federal safety testing, not company‑sponsored stats; others note mandated crash reporting already exists in some jurisdictions.
- Underlying tension: convenience and safety gains vs. surveillance, labor impacts, and eventual “enshittification” once competition is weakened.
Technical Operations & Scaling
- Driving is done on‑board; connectivity is mainly for traffic, dispatch, and “fleet response.”
- In edge cases, remote staff can review sensor video and choose among options or sketch a short path, but the car still executes with its own safety constraints.
- Open questions remain about scaling fleets fast enough, operating in snow, handling twisty roads, and rolling out to smaller highway‑dependent cities.