The Undermining of the CDC
Role and politicization of the CDC
- Some describe federal agencies, including CDC, as historically “largely insulated” from day‑to‑day politics, with appointees steering priorities but not micromanaging operations.
- Others argue the pandemic showed health agencies closely aligning with the White House line, proving they were never apolitical.
- A key flashpoint is the article’s claim that scientists worked “free of political interference”: critics call that naïve and trust‑eroding; defenders say “mostly free” is a fair description compared to far more direct interference now.
Collapse of trust in institutions
- Commenters link today’s distrust to Iraq, the 2008 bailouts, deindustrialization, and globalized offshoring that hollowed out jobs and communities.
- Another thread stresses a decades‑long, organized conservative project (media, think tanks) to delegitimize government and “the experts.”
- Others counter that government and bureaucracy “earned” distrust through incompetence, rent‑seeking, and self‑preservation.
- This ties into a philosophical dispute: technocratic expertise as necessary for complex problems vs. specialized authority as “the antithesis of democracy.”
Vaccines, mandates, and RFK Jr
- Anti‑vaccine sentiment is described as having shifted from fringe “left crunchy” to MAGA/anti‑authority, rooted more in hostility to expertise than in left/right ideology.
- Vaccine mandates (especially tied to employment and the military) are seen by some as a major driver of resentment; others stress mandates weren’t set by CDC and have long precedents.
- Several accuse institutions of regulatory capture, opaque conflicts, and censoring dissenting experts; others say mainstream biomedicine is still far more transparent and honest than anti‑vax grifters.
- RFK Jr is polarizing: portrayed either as dangerous pseudoscience and “vulture” on trust, or as a legitimate dissident raising ignored questions.
Information ecosystem and free speech
- The internet is blamed both for enabling foreign and domestic disinformation and for eroding any shared factual baseline.
- Counter‑view: online diversity of voices is essential to expose abuses that legacy media and authorities once controlled.
- There is disagreement over whether the bigger threat is censorship and de‑platforming, or unchecked conspiracy ecosystems optimized for outrage and profit.
Covid tradeoffs and future risks
- Some emphasize preventable deaths in low‑vaccination regions and condemn “let the weak die” attitudes as morally abhorrent.
- Others highlight social harms (especially to youth), mandates, and long‑term backlash as costs that weren’t fully reckoned with.
- Several worry that undermining CDC, cutting research, and rising anti‑science sentiment will leave the U.S. weaker for future, deadlier pandemics.