John Giannandrea to retire from Apple

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Blame, leadership, and Apple’s AI strategy

  • Many see the retirement announcement as unusual fanfare, implicitly pinning Apple’s AI stagnation on one person; others argue an org of Apple’s size fails systemically, not due to a single exec.
  • Several comments note a pattern of senior hires under current leadership who are seen as ill‑matched to their roles.
  • The incoming AI leader’s rapid moves (Google → Microsoft → Apple in months) raise questions about stability and Apple’s urgency/desperation around AI.

Siri: from missed opportunity to regression

  • Consensus that Siri squandered a huge early lead: after ~15 years, most people only use it for timers, alarms, basic weather, and occasional navigation.
  • Many report Siri working worse than a decade ago: slower, more errors, random actions (calling unrelated contacts, playing music instead of executing commands, failing silently).
  • Shift to newer ML approaches is widely blamed for regressions (slower, less reliable speech recognition and intent handling).
  • Discoverability is a chronic problem: users don’t know what Siri can do, and it often fails in opaque ways (“silent failures” with no feedback).

Voice assistants in general

  • Multiple people say Google Assistant and Alexa have similarly regressed, especially after LLM integration (Gemini, “Alexa+”), becoming slower, less deterministic, and more chatty.
  • Some argue voice UIs are fundamentally limited and mostly useful when hands are busy (driving, cooking); others counter that ChatGPT‑level comprehension shows voice can be powerful if tooling and reliability improve.
  • There’s frustration that assistants still can’t reliably nail simple, high‑value tasks (call X, set timer, directions, play specific media) 100% of the time.

Privacy, product design, and monetization

  • One camp believes Apple’s strong privacy stance and on‑device focus constrained AI progress and LLM adoption; others say Siri’s problems are basic UX, org, and investment issues, not privacy.
  • Several see Apple’s privacy story as partly marketing, but still a key differentiator versus data‑hungry cloud AI from competitors.
  • Broader critique: capitalism and growth pressures push companies to chase “engagement” and monetization instead of perfecting low‑margin, utilitarian assistant features users actually want.

Broader Apple software concerns

  • Siri’s flakiness is seen as symptomatic of wider Apple software rot: Photos syncing, Music, iMessage, iCloud storage, and configuration UIs are cited as having opaque, brittle behavior and poor error feedback.
  • Some expect or hope for a future “reset” focusing on quality and reliable basics rather than flashy AI features.