Just 0.001% hold 3 times the wealth of poorest half of humanity, report finds
How Wealth Is Measured (Debt, Assets, and “Misleading” Stats)
- Large subthread disputes the metric: wealth = assets – liabilities.
- Critics say including debt makes headlines misleading: a person with zero net worth is “richer” than millions with negative net worth, which doesn’t match lay intuition.
- Defenders reply this is just standard accounting; 0 really is greater than -X, and negative net worth is a real and serious condition.
- Others note this method yields paradoxical statements (e.g., “poorest 1% have more wealth than poorest 5%”), making inequality stats easy to sensationalize.
- Several point out that this leaves out human capital (education, skills) and public wealth (state-owned land, infrastructure, military assets).
Is Extreme Concentration of Wealth Itself the Problem?
- One camp: concentration is good/necessary for efficient large-scale investment; billionaires are seen as effective capital allocators whose consumption is small relative to their investments.
- Opposing camp: the core issue is oligarchy and political capture, not just efficiency. At current levels, wealth converts directly to outsized political influence, undermining democracy and shaping policy, media, and regulation.
- Some argue the moral problem is power, not yachts: wealth equals the power to reshape society, often without accountability.
Redistribution, Productivity, and Consumption
- One debate treats redistribution as zero-sum: taking wealth from big firms or the ultra-rich supposedly shrinks investment and jobs, without materially changing poor people’s consumption.
- Others counter:
- Redistribution can increase economic activity via higher consumption and money velocity.
- The goal isn’t only GDP; it’s reducing political dominance and precarity.
- More equal wealth can shift investment toward social goods (housing, food security, education).
Global vs Domestic Inequality and Self-Perception
- Several note that many readers are in the global top 10% or 1%, yet criticize “the rich” as if they’re outside the problem.
- Tension between focusing on global inequality (rich vs poor countries) vs within-country inequality. Some push the uncomfortable implication that serious global redistribution would require rich-country citizens to accept much lower living standards.
Material Conditions, Dependency, and Housing
- One line: inequality would matter less if everyone had secure access to life essentials or some self-sufficiency (land, housing, energy, food).
- Others highlight that housing and location are inherently scarce; rich bidding for prime locations raises costs and concentrates opportunity.
- There’s concern over modern dependence on wages and employers vs earlier, more land-based security.
Climate, Taxation, and Policy Directions
- Debate over individual vs corporate responsibility for emissions; some emphasize personal culpability, others corporate scale.
- Suggested responses include taxing profits where customers are, stronger regulation of lobbying and media ownership, sovereign wealth funds, UBI, and carbon pricing—though political will is seen as lacking.