Benn Jordan’s flock camera jammer will send you to jail in Florida now [video]

Expanding Surveillance and Flock’s Role

• Many see the Florida law as effectively forcing citizens to submit to Flock’s ALPR/“vehicle fingerprint” system, which logs not just plates but make, color, stickers, damage, etc.
• Links are shared showing Flock data being used by local cops, federal immigration authorities, and even abused in domestic contexts (e.g., ex-partners).
• Some argue the data is broadly accessible via law-enforcement networks and partially by FOIA; others push back that “ANYONE” is an exaggeration but concede the access scope is still troubling.

Legality, Intent, and Rights While Driving

• Several contend that deliberately modifying a plate so cameras can’t read it is obviously illegal, akin to tampering with a passport.
• Others emphasize intent: random mud or defects vs a carefully crafted adversarial pattern specifically meant to defeat ALPR.
• Debate over “knowingly” in the Florida statute: does it require deliberate evasion, or merely awareness your plate is obscured?
• There is disagreement on “driving is a privilege”: some say that framing has eroded rights; others note courts have long tolerated reduced privacy for drivers while still requiring probable cause for searches.

Technical Efficacy and Countermeasures

• Skepticism that the adversarial pattern really works in the wild: angle, noise, model differences, and retraining could break or neutralize it.
• Discussion of alternative tactics: opaque or clear plate covers, mud, paint thinner, fake leaves, bike racks, IR lighting, and artistic wraps that confuse computer vision.
• Florida has newly outlawed most covers and frames, with fines and possible jail time; some note enforcement has historically been very lax.

Privacy vs Enforcement and “Nothing to Hide”

• One side worries mass plate tracking functionally recreates warrantless GPS tracking and dragnet searches that courts have otherwise limited.
• Others argue it’s just automating observation officers could make anyway, and that oversight and data controls matter more than banning the tech.
• A “nothing to hide” stance is voiced; critics respond that future political shifts could turn harmless data into a weapon against ordinary people.

Broader Authoritarianism and Exit Fantasies

• Multiple comments connect Flock, VPN bans, and similar laws to rising fascism/technocratic authoritarianism in the U.S.
• Some recommend guns, bug-out bags, and escape plans (walk to Canada/Mexico, passports, crypto); others call this survivalist fantasy and advocate focusing on elections instead.
• Florida specifically is described as increasingly hostile (politically, environmentally, educationally), prompting some residents to consider leaving.