Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

Reaction to Flock/Cyble Takedown Behavior

  • Many see the abuse reports as a deliberate attempt to silence criticism under the guise of “cybercrime” and phishing.
  • Commenters argue that if Flock truly believed there was trademark infringement, they’d use ICANN’s UDRP process rather than quick, low-friction abuse channels with Cloudflare/Hetzner.
  • Several note that DMCA and abuse processes are structurally biased toward takedowns, making it easy to weaponize false reports.

Legal and Platform Dynamics

  • Discussion of potential causes of action: fraud, defamation, and tortious interference with contract.
  • Some argue the site owner could sue Flock/Cyble directly; others note damages may be small and litigation costly.
  • People highlight that DMCA requires “penalty of perjury” but claim there have effectively been zero perjury prosecutions, encouraging abuse.
  • Cloudflare and Hetzner are criticized for automated or low-scrutiny takedowns, with one commenter calling Cloudflare “the great firewall of America.”

YC, VC Ethics, and HN Moderation

  • Multiple comments question Y Combinator’s ethics in backing Flock and whether YC should intervene when portfolio companies act unethically.
  • Some claim YC implicitly encourages boundary-pushing, even illegal behavior framed as “challenging regulations.”
  • A side thread debates whether HN moderation is really neutral about YC companies and whether moderation tools (shadowbans, flags) are transparent or fair.

Surveillance, Use Cases, and Civic Pushback

  • Flock is framed as part of a broader shift toward techno-authoritarianism and mass data harvesting.
  • Examples given of municipalities and local institutions ending Flock pilots or removing cameras after citizen pressure.
  • One commenter mentions Flock aiding an investigation (tracking a license-plate swap), showing the tech’s utility but also its power.

License Plate Lookup Site & Privacy Design

  • Multiple people argue that hashing license plates client-side does little to protect privacy because the space is small and brute-forceable.
  • Suggestions include client-side-only databases or k-anonymity-style partial matching to avoid the operator learning exact plate searches.
  • Others note that simply querying the site already leaks an IP–plate association unless users take extra precautions (e.g., VPN).

Broader Social/Political Commentary

  • Significant tangent on American distraction by “manufactured” social issues and anti-intellectualism, with regional stereotyping and pushback.
  • Another tangent debates intelligence, education, and the (poor) quality of “average IQ by region” data, including why robust datasets are hard or costly to produce.
  • Several connect Flock’s behavior to a wider pattern of tech firms exploiting user data, eroding privacy, and operating above meaningful accountability.