Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics
Reaction to Flock/Cyble Takedown Behavior
- Many see the abuse reports as a deliberate attempt to silence criticism under the guise of “cybercrime” and phishing.
- Commenters argue that if Flock truly believed there was trademark infringement, they’d use ICANN’s UDRP process rather than quick, low-friction abuse channels with Cloudflare/Hetzner.
- Several note that DMCA and abuse processes are structurally biased toward takedowns, making it easy to weaponize false reports.
Legal and Platform Dynamics
- Discussion of potential causes of action: fraud, defamation, and tortious interference with contract.
- Some argue the site owner could sue Flock/Cyble directly; others note damages may be small and litigation costly.
- People highlight that DMCA requires “penalty of perjury” but claim there have effectively been zero perjury prosecutions, encouraging abuse.
- Cloudflare and Hetzner are criticized for automated or low-scrutiny takedowns, with one commenter calling Cloudflare “the great firewall of America.”
YC, VC Ethics, and HN Moderation
- Multiple comments question Y Combinator’s ethics in backing Flock and whether YC should intervene when portfolio companies act unethically.
- Some claim YC implicitly encourages boundary-pushing, even illegal behavior framed as “challenging regulations.”
- A side thread debates whether HN moderation is really neutral about YC companies and whether moderation tools (shadowbans, flags) are transparent or fair.
Surveillance, Use Cases, and Civic Pushback
- Flock is framed as part of a broader shift toward techno-authoritarianism and mass data harvesting.
- Examples given of municipalities and local institutions ending Flock pilots or removing cameras after citizen pressure.
- One commenter mentions Flock aiding an investigation (tracking a license-plate swap), showing the tech’s utility but also its power.
License Plate Lookup Site & Privacy Design
- Multiple people argue that hashing license plates client-side does little to protect privacy because the space is small and brute-forceable.
- Suggestions include client-side-only databases or k-anonymity-style partial matching to avoid the operator learning exact plate searches.
- Others note that simply querying the site already leaks an IP–plate association unless users take extra precautions (e.g., VPN).
Broader Social/Political Commentary
- Significant tangent on American distraction by “manufactured” social issues and anti-intellectualism, with regional stereotyping and pushback.
- Another tangent debates intelligence, education, and the (poor) quality of “average IQ by region” data, including why robust datasets are hard or costly to produce.
- Several connect Flock’s behavior to a wider pattern of tech firms exploiting user data, eroding privacy, and operating above meaningful accountability.