An ounce of silver is now worth more than a barrel of oil

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Accessing the article / site issues

  • Links to non-paywalled and archived versions of the WSJ piece are shared.
  • One commenter notes the WSJ human-verification script caused odd behavior on their phone speakers.

Oil prices, taxes, and subsidies

  • One view: high fuel taxes in Western countries force crude prices down to keep end-user prices tolerable, reducing Western demand and shifting consumption to developing countries with low fuel taxes.
  • Pushback: petroleum production responds to prices; supply cuts and increases influence price rather than taxes alone.
  • Another counterpoint: the US has “giant subsidies” for oil via tax breaks, even though it also taxes fuel.

Silver vs. oil: scarcity and finiteness

  • Some argue silver is structurally constrained: years of production deficit, limited supply, relatively little recycling.
  • Others correct that silver recycling is significant (hundreds of millions of ounces per year).
  • The claim that “oil is infinite” is widely challenged; commenters stress that no extractive resource is truly infinite.
  • Debate over reserves: one side notes we consume more oil annually than we find in new reserves; another cites ~50–55 years of known reserves at current usage and claims there’s little incentive to find more.
  • Follow-up: discussion of incentives to explore (price vs. break-even), inactive fields, heterogeneous oil qualities, and the idea that we may always hover around ~50 years of known reserves as technology and economics evolve.

Synthetic fuels and renewables

  • Several note oil-like fuels can be produced from biomass (biodiesel) or synthesized from air and water using energy and catalysts.
  • Key constraints: high energy cost, process inflexibility vs. intermittent solar, and best use cases like aviation where energy density matters most.
  • Synthetic lubricants and other hydrocarbons are seen as an under-discussed climate “win” if powered by cheap clean energy.

Silver market structure and backwardation

  • A long explanation describes recent silver backwardation: spot price above futures price, allegedly due to dealers having sold futures without physical silver and trying to cover via borrowing.
  • This explanation links backwardation, physical shortages, and China reportedly halting silver exports due to domestic demand (e.g., solar).
  • A critic rejects the idea that banks are at solvency risk or conspiring to suppress prices, arguing silver market size is too small; the original poster insists these dynamics are documented but does not fully resolve the dispute.

AI-driven silver hype and retail narratives

  • Multiple comments discuss a YouTube “Asian AI guy” channel explaining silver moves, futures, and arbitrage.
  • Some viewers find it informative; others believe it’s AI-generated “slop” or guerrilla marketing targeting unsophisticated investors.
  • The style is compared to past retail hype cycles (e.g., “JPMorgan silver suppression” stories, GameStop-style promises of life-changing gains).
  • Skeptics stress that even if the narrative sounds coherent, it’s hard for laypeople to verify, and such content often preys on hope and ignorance.

Personal stories: missed gains and regret

  • A commenter laments selling a large personal silver stash pre-rally to fund life changes (moving, travel), feeling deep regret.
  • Responses emphasize reframing: using money to improve one’s life (e.g., moving near the beach) is a valid success, not a failure.
  • Others share their own “sold too early” stories (Bitcoin, early Netflix/AMD, etc.) to normalize missed upside.
  • Meta-advice offered:
    • Any trade that makes money is a good trade; hindsight perfection is impossible.
    • Holding cash instead of real assets (precious metals, real estate) over the last several years is framed by some as the truly poor outcome due to inflation and asset appreciation, though this is not universally debated in detail.