How AI labs are solving the power problem
Boom pivot and turbine hype
- Commenters say Boom’s move into data-center turbines is a “me too” reaction, not a pioneering idea; industrial gas turbines from incumbents have been available for decades.
- Skepticism that Boom can deliver at all: they reportedly lack an engine and lost a design partner; public output is described as PR and prototypes not aligned with production goals.
- Some were surprised at how similar aviation and power-plant turbines actually are, but others note that existing firms (GE, Siemens, Caterpillar, Wärtsilä) already dominate this space.
Fossil fuels as AI’s near-term power “solution”
- Core mechanism described: bypassing slow grid build‑out by installing onsite natural-gas turbines and engines, including truck‑mounted units.
- Critics argue this “solves” the power problem only by worsening natural gas demand, local air quality, and CO₂ emissions.
- Supporters frame it as a pragmatic, interim workaround to multi‑year grid interconnect delays; onsite generation avoids transmission losses and can be redeployed.
Local pollution, environmental justice, and legality
- Strong backlash to xAI’s Memphis deployment: claims of bypassed or violated permits, high NOx/VOC emissions, and disproportionate exposure for nearby (described as historically Black) communities.
- Some see this as textbook environmental racism and regulatory failure; others push back that the area is already industrial (existing gas plant, former coal plant) and say the criticism is overstated.
- Debate over whether natural-gas plants are “pretty clean” vs. still significant sources of NOx, SOx, VOCs, and health risks when densely clustered without robust controls.
Renewables, batteries, and grid constraints
- Multiple comments explain why “just use solar + batteries” is hard at 300–400+ MW scale: land acquisition, permitting, transmission build‑out, and huge battery requirements for multi‑hour coverage.
- Onsite gas engines can be installed within days; renewables-plus-storage are slower, more capital‑intensive, and geographically sprawling.
- Some propose demand‑flexible workloads and time‑of‑day pricing; others note GPU capex and customer latency expectations make large idle windows uneconomic.
Economics, externalities, and grid policy
- The article’s claim that an “AI cloud” can earn $10–12B per GW‑year is heavily debated; some trust the analyst firm, others call it unjustified or bubble-like.
- Several argue AI’s private revenues don’t justify unpriced public harms; calls appear for carbon taxes, pollution pricing, and possibly AI‑specific levies or UBI funding.
- Others counter that many industries burn fossil fuels for profit; AI is just a new, more visible entrant.
- Broader frustration that US grid and gas infrastructure are underbuilt and policy‑constrained, with Texas cited as an example of a fragile, isolated grid.
AI efficiency and value debate
- One line of discussion compares human brains (~100 W) to AI systems, lamenting AI’s energy intensity.
- Others respond that, per task, AI can be vastly more energy‑ and CO₂‑efficient than humans for writing or illustration, and can radically amplify human productivity.
- Counterarguments note training and inference energy, current model unreliability, and that productivity gains don’t automatically translate to social benefit without addressing job loss, inequality, and overconsumption.