Late night pizzeria nearby The Pentagon has suddenly surged in traffic
Context: Pizza Signal and Venezuela Operation
- Initial comments explain the account’s premise: late-night surges at Pentagon-adjacent pizza places correlate with major military actions.
- Commenters connect this spike to reports of a U.S. strike on Venezuela and the capture of Maduro, treating linked news coverage as confirmation.
- Some note nearby venues (bars, sports pubs, Papa John’s) show varying traffic, used jokingly as a “dashboard” of events.
Legality, War Powers, and Process
- Multiple comments question how the U.S. can kidnap a foreign head of state without a formal declaration of war or clear congressional authorization.
- Others argue this is consistent with decades of precedent: Congress has not declared war since WWII, yet presidents have repeatedly used force under the War Powers Resolution and post‑9/11 authorizations.
- Several see this as another step in the long erosion of checks and balances, with power over war effectively consolidated in the presidency.
Motives and Geopolitics
- Many frame the operation as driven by oil and mineral interests, or more broadly to secure U.S. influence in the Western Hemisphere (Monroe Doctrine logic).
- Some suggest it creates a more compliant regime and a proxy leverage point over neighboring states, comparing it to past interventions in Latin America or Iraq.
- A minority speculate about distraction from domestic scandals (e.g., Epstein files), but others caution that assumes more planning and competence than may exist.
Comparisons and Moral Judgments
- Several equate this to Russia’s “special military operation” in Ukraine: military action inside another sovereign state without a formal war declaration.
- Others argue it reinforces “Pax Americana” and showcases U.S. military superiority versus other degraded militaries, implying dictators worldwide will think twice.
Drug War Narrative and Debate
- Some justify the action through the “narcoterrorism” framing and argue it’s easier to cut supply than deal with societal causes of addiction.
- Others counter that punitive, supply-side approaches fail (citing other countries’ experiences), just push people to alternative substances, and avoid addressing emotional and social roots of addiction.
- There is disagreement over whether harsh criminalization of sellers is effective or whether controlled legalization would be safer.
Reliability and Manipulation of the Pizza Signal
- Several note the pizza account posts “surge” alerts often with no visible follow‑on event, calling it high false‑positive and easily spoofable (e.g., by bot-coordinated orders).
- Others argue that while noisy, it may have a low false‑negative rate for truly large operations, but is too coarse to indicate targets or timing.
- Some suggest the Pentagon could neutralize the signal by ordering pizza at a steady rate or holding random “pizza nights.”
OPSEC, Jokes, and Indirect Indicators
- Commenters joke about installing pizza ovens inside the Pentagon, weaponizing anchovies, or using pneumatic tubes and “decentralized pizza strategies.”
- A few stories illustrate how mundane changes (office snacks, furniture, or daycare supplies) can foreshadow layoffs or bankruptcy, used as an analogy for reading the pizza data.
- One user criticizes continued reliance on such an easily gamed metric and muses about manipulating it personally.
Data Collection and Privacy
- Some ask how Google infers “busy” status (assumed from smartphone location data) and whether Pentagon staff are leaving work or personal locations on.
- Questions are raised about whether Google can track iPhones without active Maps use and how much this undermines operational security, though no clear answers emerge.