Why I left iNaturalist
Product philosophy: complexity vs “frictionless” apps
- Several commenters resonate with the tension the essay describes: tools that genuinely teach and deepen understanding often require effort and “friction,” which clashes with modern growth-driven UX ideals.
- Some compare this to generative AI trends where skill-building is treated as optional or even exclusionary.
- Birders note that many users choose eBird + Merlin because it’s easier, but some prefer iNaturalist precisely because it slows you down, forces judgment, and yields more trustworthy records.
iNaturalist, Seek, and user experience
- Many see iNaturalist as on par with, or even more personally impactful than, Wikipedia: a daily tool for learning species, ecosystems, and taxonomy.
- Seek is praised as a lightweight gateway for casual users and families; others find it naggy (e.g., repeated “don’t disturb nature” warnings) and switch to the main app.
- Several argue the current split is confusing: Seek feels like “just a feature” that should be the iNat mobile front door, with the full web UI as the real power-user interface.
- Complaints include clunky observation workflows, poor mobile performance, slow image loading, and an “old” feel, which discourage deeper engagement.
Scientific value and data quality
- Supporters emphasize iNat as a unique, massive biodiversity record feeding into GBIF, used in conservation organizations and research (e.g., species distributions, invasive species, modeling).
- One commenter reports that in their rare-plant work, iNat is a useful first-pass data source but often not publishable on its own.
- Another initially doubts real scientific use but is pointed to GBIF’s citation tracking showing thousands of iNat records in some studies.
AI models, openness, and data control
- A strong thread criticizes iNat’s closed machine-learning models as contrary to open science and to a 501(c)(3)’s public-interest mission, given that models are trained on community data.
- There are allegations of forum posts on this topic being “not approved” and effectively sidelined.
- Others agree models should be open but distinguish that from calls to “ban AI,” noting ML is now integral to large-scale scientific analysis.
Governance, leadership, and organizational design
- Long subthreads debate sociocracy, “unstructured anarchy,” and agile/flat structures.
- Critics say the described governance experiments lacked clear accountability, and that the author stepped out of formal leadership yet continued pushing strong product opinions.
- Defenders argue that non-hierarchical models can work when participants are aligned and trained, and that experiments in democratic governance shouldn’t be dismissed just because they’re hard.
- More broadly, commenters see a familiar pattern: as platforms scale, they introduce hierarchy, optimize for growth and risk management, and gradually alienate the early contributors who built their value.