Canada Announces Divorce from America

Is “Divorce” Rational or a Mistake?

  • One side calls Canada’s “divorce” a large, obvious mistake given deep economic, defense, and cultural integration with the US that cannot be replicated with Europe/China.
  • Others argue it is a rational response to escalating US hostility and coercion, not emotional retaliation. For them, the choice is between dependence on an unpredictable bully and painful but necessary separation.

Economic Interdependence vs Strategic Autonomy

  • Critics emphasize Canada’s heavy reliance on US trade and defense; realignment is seen as economically costly and strategically risky.
  • Supporters counter that Trump-era threats pushed Canadian policy and startup programs to pivot toward Asia and the EU anyway.
  • Some argue Canada can offset losses by fixing internal trade barriers between provinces, though others say those barriers are overstated outside a few sectors.

Bullying, Dignity, and Abuse Analogies

  • Several comments liken Canada’s situation to an abusive relationship: appeasement is framed as “submission,” and decoupling as protecting the victim despite high costs.
  • Opponents reject this framing, stressing that geography and existing integration make “leaving” far more damaging than staying and managing tensions.

Security, Invasion, and Guerrilla Scenarios

  • There is anxiety that growing closer to China could make Canada a bigger target for US pressure or even force.
  • Some say Canadian defenses would collapse in days; others imagine a prolonged guerrilla resistance and international support, though this is debated and partly tongue-in-cheek.

Carney’s Strategy and Multilateralism

  • One view holds that his strategy rests on outdated economic models and overconfidence in multilateral institutions he himself says are failing.
  • A counterview interprets his proposal as shifting from broad, legacy institutions toward tighter “minilateral” blocs of medium powers hedging against hegemons.

Davos, Narrative, and Global Power

  • Skeptics dismiss the Davos speech as elite theater with little lasting impact.
  • Others argue the real audience is the broader world, and see this as an important narrative break: refusing to accept US power justified purely by story and habit.

Weaponized Interdependence and Russia/Ukraine

  • The thread echoes Carney’s line about economic integration being weaponized, with sanctions on Russia cited.
  • Debate ensues over NATO expansion, whether Russia should have been brought into NATO, and whether Western policy provoked the war, with strongly opposed interpretations and no consensus.

US Politics and Democratic Decay

  • Some comments broaden to condemn Trump as a traitor and symptom of democratic capture by corporate and authoritarian interests, arguing that global stability—and thus Canada’s position—is collapsing as a result.