Tesla fined for repeatedly failing to help UK police over driving offences
What Tesla did and legal context
- Discussion clarifies this is not about Tesla cars auto-reporting speeding, but about standard UK procedures.
- In the UK, the registered keeper (often the leasing company) must identify who was driving when a camera records an offence.
- Tesla, as lessor/keeper, repeatedly failed to supply driver details in time; instead, it appears to have sometimes just paid the fines.
- This triggered prosecutions for “failure to identify the driver,” a separate criminal offence carrying fines.
How the UK system works
- Speed and red‑light cameras generate notices sent by post to the registered keeper via the DVLA database.
- The keeper must name the driver; if they don’t, they can be prosecuted and fined instead of (or in addition to) the driver.
- Commenters note this applies to private owners, companies, and leasing firms alike; it’s not Tesla‑specific.
Loopholes and corporate vs individual liability
- Some raise the concern that companies could just pay fines and refuse to name drivers, letting employees dodge licence points.
- Others note that similar issues exist in other countries and are sometimes addressed via logbook requirements or obligations that carry heavier penalties, including jail for false declarations.
- One commenter questions what the “equivalent of jail” is for corporations that casually absorb fines as a cost of doing business.
Fairness, process, and postal problems
- Several commenters criticise the reliance on ordinary mail: the law deems a notice “served” once posted, even if it never arrives.
- If the driver’s response is allegedly not received, they can still be punished for failing to respond; asymmetry seen as unjust.
- Some argue for more robust or modern service mechanisms; others say the system “works fine” in practice.
Broader debate: automated enforcement, safety, and politics
- Strong split between those who see cameras as effective, life‑saving and resource‑efficient, and those who see them as revenue tools or “dystopian” surveillance.
- Disagreement over whether speed limits are increasingly political/anti‑motorist versus grounded in safety evidence (e.g., Wales 20mph data and insurer responses).
- Some argue rules should reflect real driving norms (e.g., 85th percentile speeds); others stress human misjudgment and road design as reasons for stricter limits and automated enforcement.
Is Tesla the real story?
- Some note nearly 4,000 recent convictions for failure to identify drivers, versus 18 for Tesla, and suggest the bigger story is systemic rather than Tesla‑specific.