Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

Incident and Video Evidence

• Multiple videos show the victim (an ICU nurse, lawful gun owner with carry permit and no serious record per local police) filming ICE, then intervening after agents push a woman.
• Commenters describe him being pepper‑sprayed, tackled by several agents, his arms pinned, then disarmed by an agent who removes a handgun from his waistband.
• Shots are fired after disarmament; several analyses (including Bellingcat and NYT, linked in thread) argue the man no longer posed a threat and was effectively executed, with additional rounds fired into his motionless body.
• A minority speculate about a negligent discharge triggering a panic volley, but most see the sequence as intentional and unjustifiable.

Official Narrative vs. Footage

• DHS and allied politicians claim the man approached agents with a gun intending to “massacre law enforcement.”
• Commenters argue this is flatly contradicted by video (phone in hand, gun holstered until seized) and by local police characterizations.
• Many stress that federal agencies have repeatedly issued misleading or false statements in recent ICE violence cases, and that DoJ leadership is unlikely to investigate seriously.

ICE, Fascism, and State Violence

• Large parts of the thread label ICE/DHS as a de facto fascist or white‑nationalist paramilitary: “death squads,” “Gestapo,” “brownshirts.”
• Others broaden criticism to US policing generally (killology training, long‑normalized lethal force, prison‑guard and militia culture).
• A smaller group pushes back, arguing videos often show people obstructing lawful operations and that federal law clearly criminalizes such obstruction; they are heavily downvoted and accused of bad faith.

Federal vs. State Power and Prospects of Conflict

• Intense discussion of what Minnesota can legally do: prosecute individual agents, deny local cooperation, restrict commerce with federal agents, or even move toward “soft secession” (withholding federal tax remittances).
• Supremacy Clause and captured federal courts are cited as blocking meaningful accountability; some say enforcement capacity itself is now co‑opted.
• Several see this as a “soft civil war” already underway, with ICE as an occupying force in blue cities; fears of escalation to Insurrection Act or martial law recur.

Rights, Guns, and Who Is Targeted

• Commenters highlight the contradiction between 2A rhetoric and killing a lawful gun owner for admitting he is armed.
• Comparisons are drawn to lenient treatment of armed right‑wing militias; many conclude rights are applied hierarchically, not universally.

HN and Tech Community Relevance

• Long subthread over why this and similar posts are flagged off the HN front page; moderators reiterate the “not a current‑affairs site” stance, while many users argue that fascist state violence in the US, the global tech hub, is inherently relevant.
• Some suggest tech workers, investors, and immigrants must reassess working with or in the US given these developments.

Proposed Responses and Outlook

• Suggested actions: mass strikes, sustained protests, pressure on DHS funding, aggressive state‑level resistance, systematic archiving of videos as platforms remove them.
• Pessimists predict continued impunity and worsening violence; optimists argue there will eventually be a reckoning, but timing and scale are unclear.