Denmark was reportedly preparing for full-scale war with the US over Greenland

Reports from Danish public media that Denmark quietly prepared to militarily resist a potential U.S. seizure of Greenland under Trump prompt wide-ranging debate on how credible such a threat was. Commenters use the episode to argue that U.S. soft power and trustworthiness—especially in Europe—have eroded sharply, citing recent wars, treaty-breaking, and partisan instability. Many see this as accelerating moves toward greater European military and technological autonomy, while others warn that American decline and nuclear proliferation could make the global order far more dangerous.

Context: Danish Preparations over Greenland

  • Danish public broadcaster reports Denmark, France, and Germany took US threats to seize Greenland seriously and prepared for possible US attack.
  • Measures reportedly included moving troops, explosives to destroy runways, blood supplies, and readying F‑35s; goal seen as delaying or raising the cost of any US move, not “winning.”
  • Some see this as standard military prudence (“always prepare for the unthinkable”), others say these specific steps exceed normal wargaming.

Feasibility and Consequences of a US Move

  • Many agree the US could easily overwhelm Greenland militarily; resistance would be symbolic or insurgent at best.
  • Others argue the real constraint is political: attacking Greenland = attacking Denmark, NATO, and EU, with potential nuclear and alliance escalation.
  • Skeptics call a US invasion “utterly ludicrous”; critics reply that similarly “unthinkable” US actions (Iraq, current Iran war, Venezuela) did happen, so preparation is rational.

US Soft Power, Reputation, and Alliances

  • Large subthread on US loss of soft power and trust, especially in Europe and Canada.
  • Claims that:
    • US has squandered 80+ years of goodwill via unilateral wars, threats to allies, and current Iran conflict.
    • Allies are questioning US security guarantees and NATO reliability.
    • Some companies and governments are actively reducing dependence on US tech/cloud due to legal and political risk.
  • Counterpoints:
    • US still dominant militarily and economically; damage may be reversible with future leadership.
    • Some downplay “soft power” loss or see it as cyclical (similar hostility during Iraq war).

Europe, NATO, and Strategic Autonomy

  • Debate whether EU is a true military alliance or only NATO is; multiple EU mutual defense clauses and pacts cited.
  • Strong current in favor of European rearmament and autonomy: praise for French Gaullist sovereignty, nuclear deterrent, and independent defense industry.
  • Argument that NATO-minus-US would still be the world’s second most powerful military if Europe organized itself; others stress current dependence on US hardware and logistics.
  • Several foresee more EU coordination, higher defense budgets, and less reliance on US protection.

China, Russia, and the Post‑American Order

  • Some frame the world as increasingly multipolar (US, China, previously Russia); others say only US and China really count, Russia is “regional.”
  • China seen as capitalizing on US decline via infrastructure, ports, manufacturing dominance, and cultural exports (e.g., games), especially in Africa and Asia.
  • Disagreement over whether Chinese rise is “much better” or just a different form of authoritarian hegemony.

Technology, Economy, and Decoupling

  • Discussion of moving from US cloud (AWS, Azure) to EU providers for sovereignty, predictability, and GDPR reasons; critics say this hurts competitiveness and ignores US-designed hardware and IP in devices.
  • Fears that loss of reserve-currency dominance and mounting debt will weaken US power; others note pros/cons and suggest “becoming like the EU” isn’t catastrophic.

US Domestic Politics and Legitimacy

  • Extensive, polarized debate over US leadership (especially Trump), legality of current wars, presidential war powers, and Supreme Court immunity rulings.
  • Many outside the US argue that failure to hold past administrations accountable (Nixon, Iraq, Jan 6) normalized impunity and undermined global trust.
  • Some call for “Nuremberg-style” proceedings and systemic reform; others warn that prosecuting outgoing regimes on corruption/war-crimes grounds can look like tin‑pot authoritarianism.