Author of Red Mars calls 'bullshit' on emigrating to the planet
Feasibility of Mars Colonization and Terraforming
- Many commenters argue long-term settlement is vastly harder than popular narratives suggest.
- Key technical issues raised: toxic perchlorates in ubiquitous fine dust, high radiation without a magnetic field, very low atmospheric pressure, unknown effects of 0.38g on long-term human health.
- Terraforming is seen as technologically out of reach and requiring extremely long timescales; realistic scenarios involve pressurized, shielded habitats and largely underground living.
- Closed, self-sustaining ecosystems are noted as an unsolved problem; past Earth experiments (e.g., Biosphere-style projects) struggled even under ideal logistics.
Earth vs Mars: Priorities and Ethics
- Strong view: it is cheaper and easier to “terraform Earth” (repair climate and ecosystems) than to terraform Mars or build a self-sufficient colony there.
- Others counter that humanity is large enough to pursue both remediation and exploration, and that insisting on “solve Earth first” would have blocked historic exploration.
- Some suggest Mars colonization discourse functions as escapism for elites, potentially leaving “the rest” on a degraded Earth.
Humans vs Robots for Mars Exploration
- Pro-human side: astronauts can adapt, fix unexpected failures, and do in days what current rovers take years to achieve.
- Pro-robot side: humans require enormous mass in life support, shielding, and return capability; robotic missions are far cheaper, safer, and can be multiplied across sites.
- Future autonomous, possibly humanoid robots plus compact reactors are proposed as a better path, though others note such systems don’t yet exist even on Earth.
Economics, Technology, and Program Realism
- Several commenters highlight budget constraints, national debt, and political risk aversion as major blockers.
- There is skepticism about current heavy-lift programs that have yet to demonstrate orbital payload capacity while being placed on critical paths for lunar or Martian plans.
- Some see hype around Mars as investor-facing rhetoric rather than an engineering-backed roadmap.
Existential Risk and “Backup Planet” Argument
- One camp sees off-world settlements (Mars, Moon, or orbital habitats) as a hedge against catastrophic Earth events.
- Critics argue that most conceivable disasters are better mitigated with Earth-based bunkers and resilience measures; Earth post-disaster is still likely more habitable than Mars.
- Very small, dependent outposts are not viewed as a meaningful “backup” for civilization.
Psychological and Cultural Themes
- Several commenters express melancholy as classic sci-fi futures (FTL, fully terraformed Mars) look increasingly implausible.
- Others argue these were always fantasies, and that improving life on Earth for billions is a more compelling, “cool” grand project.
- A minority worry humanity is an ecologically destructive “invasive species” and advocate treating other worlds more like protected parks than real estate.