Women are getting most of the new jobs. What's going on with men?

Gender imbalance in “new jobs” and statistics

  • Several commenters question the framing that women are “getting most new jobs.”
  • Explanations offered: women catching up from historically lower employment; more part‑time work by women; sector‑specific growth (healthcare) where women dominate; and possible hiring incentives favoring women in tie‑breakers.
  • Others stress men still earn more on average, while some argue younger women now out‑earn young men when controlling for role, hours, and experience.
  • Some think the article confuses net job growth with gross hires and layoffs, suggesting male‑dominated sectors may be shedding jobs.

Healthcare, nursing, teaching, and gender norms

  • Many note that job growth is concentrated in healthcare, education, and social work, which are heavily female.
  • Debate on why:
    • One side attributes it to socialization and gender norms (caregiving, empathy coded as feminine, masculinity norms discouraging “care” jobs).
    • Another side claims these jobs better match “natural” female dispositions and men’s “provider” role, a view others strongly reject as stereotyping.
  • Some highlight physical demands and injury risk in nursing, with male nurses often expected to do more heavy lifting.
  • Others emphasize stigma around “male nurse” identity, or distrust of men around children in teaching.

Workplace toxicity, harassment, and power

  • Multiple anecdotes describe hostile dynamics for men in majority‑female workplaces (bullying, sexual advances, drama), with pushback that women face similar or worse in male‑dominated fields.
  • Some argue harassment is mainly about power, not gender, and mistreatment of men is under‑acknowledged.
  • Others warn against a “suck it up” attitude, saying men may opt out of the workforce rather than endure toxic environments.

DEI, postmodernism, and fairness debates

  • Intense disagreement about DEI:
    • Critics link it to postmodern theories, claim it rejects objective reality, treats men as inherently privileged, and can drive anti‑male bias in hiring.
    • Supporters counter that DEI addresses historic exclusion, is aligned with human rights, and that claims of widespread anti‑white‑male discrimination lack evidence.
  • A side debate arises over queer theory and “Cynical Theories,” with both sides accusing the other of misunderstanding or consuming propaganda.

Men’s disenfranchisement, manosphere, and social risk

  • Several comments worry about a growing cohort of disengaged men and link this to the “manosphere.”
  • Some see the manosphere as mostly grift; others fear it could be weaponized by a charismatic leader.
  • There is disagreement on how threatening this is, with some citing low testosterone, cheap entertainment, and hedonism as pacifying factors, while others foresee unrest or sporadic violence.

Status, pay, and structural issues

  • Many argue the core problem is that “female” jobs (nursing, teaching, childcare, social work) are underpaid and low‑status.
  • Some suggest higher pay and status would attract more men and simultaneously correct long‑standing devaluation of women’s work.
  • Others criticize the idea of “marketing” these jobs as more masculine, seeing it as superficial compared to structural reform.