US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

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Perceived Motivations and Lobbying

  • Many comments suspect the bill is driven by major platforms (especially Meta, but also Apple, Google, Microsoft) to:
    • Shift liability for child endangerment/addiction away from apps onto OS vendors.
    • Create a standardized, government‑approved age signal they can point to in lawsuits.
  • Others note near-identical bills across US states and even Brazil as evidence of a single lobbying source.
  • Some argue all large platforms have aligned incentives here, not just one company.

Bill Requirements and Ambiguities

  • Core requirements (per quoted text):
    • OS must require users’ dates of birth to set up and use accounts.
    • If under 18, a parent/guardian must “verify” the child’s birthdate.
    • OS must expose an API so app developers can access information “as necessary” to verify user age.
  • Key ambiguities:
    • “Verification” is undefined; FTC is tasked with specifying methods.
    • Language like “for other purposes” and broad definitions of “operating system” and “OS provider” raise scope questions.
    • It’s unclear whether apps will see only age buckets or full birthdates.

Privacy, Surveillance, and Civil Liberties Concerns

  • Strong fear this is a backdoor to:
    • Mandatory digital ID and de‑facto real‑name/age internet.
    • Large-scale collection of state IDs, biometrics, and precise DOBs, with inevitable breaches.
    • Easier state and corporate surveillance, including political and dissident tracking.
  • Some see it as “China‑style” digital ID without the label and part of a broader infrastructure build-out (banks, citizenship data, etc.).
  • Constitutional worries include compelled speech and overreach into software design; some discuss suing for a declaratory judgment.

Effectiveness and Alternatives

  • Critics: OS-level age gates are easily bypassed (shared devices, kids lying, burner devices) and don’t meaningfully “protect children.”
  • Supporters: an OS-level age bit/API is the “least bad” option and could prevent worse, more intrusive schemes.
  • Alternatives proposed:
    • Robust parental controls managed by parents, not the state.
    • Content/site rating headers and device-side filtering (apps tagged with age categories; devices fail-closed for kids).
    • Cross-platform parental-control protocols instead of siloed vendor tools.

Scope, Enforcement, and Edge Cases

  • Questions about coverage:
    • Do cars, appliances, calculators, containers, VMs, and smart devices count as “general purpose computing devices”?
    • Are Linux distros, hobby OS developers, and root accounts “OS providers”?
  • Some expect noncompliant OSes to move underground (airgapped networks, I2P, Usenet/IRC, BBS over radio).

Community and Political Reactions

  • Thread is overwhelmingly skeptical or hostile, but a minority view the bill’s model (if kept minimal and non-ID-based) as acceptable or even beneficial for parents.
  • Noted as a strongly bipartisan push, with several commenters emphasizing that “protect the children” is being used as a Trojan horse for broader control.