Email could have been X.400 times better
Unsubscribe Links, Trackers, and Email Scanners
- Several commenters say email read-tracking and “one-click unsubscribe” are badly degraded by security scanners that prefetch links and images.
- Others argue the real problem is spam and unethical mailing practices, not scanners.
- Strong sentiment that unsubscribe must be easy and not gated by CAPTCHAs; if it is, many will mark as spam instead.
- Some note standard headers like
List-Unsubscribe(and related POST variants) are more robust and supported by infrastructure (e.g., required for bulk deliverability), though client UX support is mixed. - Disagreement over whether scanners actually submit unsubscribe forms vs. just following links; some suspect poor implementation (GET with side effects) and business incentives behind using CAPTCHAs.
Read Receipts, Tracking, and Privacy
- Commenters distinguish between protocol-level read receipts and tracking pixels.
- Many disable remote content to avoid tracking, but others point out scanners can defeat this by preloading images/links anyway.
- Some are explicitly glad stronger read receipts “died,” seeing them as privacy-invasive and marketer-friendly.
X.400 vs SMTP: Complexity, Features, and Failure
- Broad agreement that SMTP “won” because it was simple, open, and easy to implement and debug.
- X.400 required explicit routing configuration and complex addressing; SMTP leverages DNS and simple domain-based routing.
- Many describe X.400 and related ITU/OSI stacks as overengineered, expensive, poorly documented, and often only partially implemented.
- Features like recall, guaranteed deletion, or protocol-level multicast are criticized as either impossible to truly guarantee or better handled at endpoints (mailing lists).
- Several share painful operational stories of X.400, Novell connectors, “bang path” routing, and legacy EDI/X.400 systems still limping along.
Standards Culture: ITU/OSI vs IETF/Internet
- Repeated theme: complex, committee-driven telco standards (X.400, X.25, ATM, OSI) lost to simpler, “worse is better” Internet protocols.
- IETF’s open RFCs and accessible implementations contrasted with costly, obscure ITU specs.
- Some note X.509 and pieces of X.500/LDAP persist, but often in ways that ignore the original grand architecture.
Email Properties and Alternate Histories
- Several value email’s immutability and distrust features like recalls or auto-destruct.
- Discussion of hypothetical paid “e-stamp” email to fight spam: some see it as reducing spam; others say micropayments would stifle organic communication and users would flee to free channels.