To Protect and Swerve: NYPD Cop Has 547 Speeding Tickets

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Scope of the discussion

  • Thread centers on an NYPD officer accumulating hundreds of camera-based speeding and red‑light tickets, mostly in school zones, without losing driving privileges or job status.
  • Debate branches into road safety, legal structure of camera enforcement, and police accountability.

Risk of speeding and road safety

  • Many argue speeding is inherently dangerous, especially in dense or school areas; even moderate increases in speed sharply increase stopping distance and severity of injuries.
  • A minority claim that if a driver hasn’t caused a crash after hundreds of violations, laws or limits may be too strict; others counter with statistics and note that “no known crash” is not proof of safety.
  • Discussion highlights differences between driving alone on empty roads vs. near pedestrians and children.
  • Some propose higher general speed limits plus tech like collision‑avoidance; others insist the proven levers are lower speeds, road redesign (narrowing, protected crossings), and turn restrictions.

Camera enforcement and legal loopholes

  • Key issue: in New York, camera tickets are treated as low‑level violations tied to the vehicle/owner, not the licensed driver, and carry only small fines, no points.
  • Result: a driver can rack up hundreds of tickets and legally keep driving, whereas three officer‑issued speeding tickets would suspend a license.
  • There is disagreement on whether the owner should be compelled to identify the driver; some cite European practices, others point to U.S. self‑incrimination protections.
  • Proposed fixes:
    • Registration‑based point systems and eventual revocation or seizure of “dangerous” vehicles.
    • Escalating fines scaled to income or vehicle value.
    • Reactivating or strengthening programs that mandate safety courses or allow impoundment after repeated violations.

Police standards, favoritism, and unions

  • Many see this as emblematic of double standards: police both enforce and routinely violate traffic laws, often enjoying informal immunity (e.g., professional courtesy, special decals, weak discipline).
  • Some argue cops, given their authority and privileges, should be held to higher off‑duty standards; others question extending job discipline to personal behavior.
  • Police unions and qualified immunity are criticized as enabling lack of accountability; abolition or reform of public‑sector police unions is suggested.

Journalism, surveillance, and privacy

  • Some feel the article verges on doxxing by visiting home and workplace; others say this is basic, appropriate reporting on a public servant.
  • A few worry about “universal surveillance” via cameras; others see logging tickets as benign and necessary for safety.