To Protect and Swerve: NYPD Cop Has 547 Speeding Tickets

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An NYPD officer who has accrued more than 500 automated speeding and red‑light tickets—many in school zones—without losing his license is prompting anger over police impunity and gaps in New York’s traffic enforcement system. Commenters highlight how camera-issued tickets in the state carry only small fines and no license points, making them easy for repeat offenders to absorb, especially officers shielded by departmental culture and unions. The exchange broadens into arguments over road safety, appropriate speed limits, income- or vehicle-based fines, vehicle seizure and other policy fixes, as well as whether police should be held to stricter standards than ordinary drivers.

Scope of the discussion

  • Thread centers on an NYPD officer accumulating hundreds of camera-based speeding and red‑light tickets, mostly in school zones, without losing driving privileges or job status.
  • Debate branches into road safety, legal structure of camera enforcement, and police accountability.

Risk of speeding and road safety

  • Many argue speeding is inherently dangerous, especially in dense or school areas; even moderate increases in speed sharply increase stopping distance and severity of injuries.
  • A minority claim that if a driver hasn’t caused a crash after hundreds of violations, laws or limits may be too strict; others counter with statistics and note that “no known crash” is not proof of safety.
  • Discussion highlights differences between driving alone on empty roads vs. near pedestrians and children.
  • Some propose higher general speed limits plus tech like collision‑avoidance; others insist the proven levers are lower speeds, road redesign (narrowing, protected crossings), and turn restrictions.

Camera enforcement and legal loopholes

  • Key issue: in New York, camera tickets are treated as low‑level violations tied to the vehicle/owner, not the licensed driver, and carry only small fines, no points.
  • Result: a driver can rack up hundreds of tickets and legally keep driving, whereas three officer‑issued speeding tickets would suspend a license.
  • There is disagreement on whether the owner should be compelled to identify the driver; some cite European practices, others point to U.S. self‑incrimination protections.
  • Proposed fixes:
    • Registration‑based point systems and eventual revocation or seizure of “dangerous” vehicles.
    • Escalating fines scaled to income or vehicle value.
    • Reactivating or strengthening programs that mandate safety courses or allow impoundment after repeated violations.

Police standards, favoritism, and unions

  • Many see this as emblematic of double standards: police both enforce and routinely violate traffic laws, often enjoying informal immunity (e.g., professional courtesy, special decals, weak discipline).
  • Some argue cops, given their authority and privileges, should be held to higher off‑duty standards; others question extending job discipline to personal behavior.
  • Police unions and qualified immunity are criticized as enabling lack of accountability; abolition or reform of public‑sector police unions is suggested.

Journalism, surveillance, and privacy

  • Some feel the article verges on doxxing by visiting home and workplace; others say this is basic, appropriate reporting on a public servant.
  • A few worry about “universal surveillance” via cameras; others see logging tickets as benign and necessary for safety.