Mythos Finds a Curl Vulnerability
Role and impact of Mythos on curl
- Many note that curl had already been heavily scanned with other AI tools, fuzzers, and audits; expectations of a “tsunami” of new bugs from Mythos were therefore unrealistic.
- Mythos reportedly found five plausible issues, of which one will become a low‑severity CVE. Commenters see this as evidence it’s an incremental improvement, not a revolution.
- Some argue the result mainly reflects curl’s unusually high security maturity; others counter that curl still gets new CVEs regularly, so a truly game‑changing tool should find more.
Comparison with other AI tools and workflows
- Previous AI-based tools (AISLE, ZeroPath, Codex Security, etc.) have already led to hundreds of bugfixes and around a dozen CVEs in curl.
- Several suggest Mythos looks like “Opus plus a harness/prompt,” with the real gains coming from good pipelines, adversarial review, and dynamic validation rather than the raw model.
- Others say even current public models can already find bugs and generate PoC exploits in large codebases; Mythos mostly lowers the skill required.
Firefox / broader ecosystem vs curl
- Firefox’s use of Mythos reportedly surfaced hundreds of vulnerabilities, far more than earlier experiments with prior models. Some view this as strong evidence of a step change.
- Skeptics note differences in harness maturity, scope of scanning, and token budgets; they argue you can’t directly compare Firefox “first-time large-scale AI scan” numbers with curl’s “post-many-AI-passes” state.
- Unclear: exact false-positive rates and how much of Firefox’s haul truly required Mythos versus any strong model plus a good pipeline.
Danger, accessibility, and attacker economics
- One camp stresses that Mythos (and similar models) make high‑end vulnerability discovery and exploitation accessible to non-experts, which meaningfully changes attacker economics.
- Others argue this capability already existed with prior models; Mythos primarily makes it easier for people who “don’t know what they’re doing.”
- There’s concern that defenders are now racing against automated scanning of vast software ecosystems, particularly for medium/low‑scrutiny projects.
Marketing, hype, and co‑marketing concerns
- Many see Mythos framing (“too powerful to release,” “reshaping cybersecurity”) as aggressive marketing, likened to earlier “too dangerous to release” claims about past models.
- Some suspect co‑marketing arrangements with browser vendors and governments, or at least mutually beneficial publicity.
- Others push back, saying the capabilities are real, and that using vivid language to get C‑suites to fund security work is pragmatically helpful, even if dramatized.