Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer
NeXT’s Influence on Apple and Computing
- Many commenters argue NeXT is far from “forgotten”: its OS and tools heavily shaped Mac OS X/macOS (e.g., NS-prefixed APIs, BSD command line, NeXTSTEP UI ideas).
- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep were important in 3D/graphics in the 90s and used at Pixar and in early web and game history (Doom/Quake, first web browser/server).
- Some wish the NeXT and classic Mac lines had continued separately; others say NeXT would have died and classic Mac would have needed any modern kernel anyway.
Success, Failure, and Business Outcomes
- NeXT is described as both a financial/operational mess and a long‑term success because its tech, people, and WebObjects effectively saved Apple.
- Question raised whether NeXT investors did well; unclear from thread.
- Comparison to BeOS: several think an Apple–BeOS path would likely have failed or led to acquisition by another company.
Jobs’ Evolution and Management
- NeXT years are seen as crucial in reshaping Jobs’ leadership, giving him space to learn from failure and constraint.
- Some books and accounts paint NeXT as a disaster and Jobs as a poor manager; others say that underscores how hard startups are and how learning from setbacks matters.
- Debate over whether biographies are “hit pieces” or necessary corrections to the Jobs distortion field.
Apple’s Near‑Collapse and Turnaround
- Disagreement on how close Apple was to “days away” vs. “months away” from bankruptcy in the 90s, but consensus that the situation was dire.
- Microsoft’s investment is framed both as antitrust-motivated lifeline and as over‑credited in later Apple mythology.
- Jobs’ product focus (iMac/iBook, simplified lineup) and Tim Cook’s supply-chain mastery are both cited as central to the turnaround.
Technical and Design Legacies
- NeXT is praised for advanced APIs, Interface Builder, Display PostScript, WebObjects, and influential apps (e.g., Improv, Virtuoso).
- Discussion of NeXT morphing from workstation maker into an enterprise software/tools company before Apple acquisition.
- Projects like GNUstep, Window Maker, and NEXTSPACE aim to recreate NeXTSTEP’s look/feel on modern systems.
Apple’s Current Direction and Products
- Some see modern Apple as “post‑NeXT” after key people left, with software now less “cutting edge” despite world‑class hardware (Apple Silicon, MacBooks, AirPods).
- Vision Pro is criticized as powerful hardware with conservative, iOS‑style software and missed opportunities for truly spatial, developer‑centric computing.
- Magic Mouse and other Apple pointing devices draw ergonomic complaints; many users replace them with third‑party mice or trackpads.
Jobs, Musk, and Legacy Debates
- Comparisons to Elon Musk focus mainly on mass firings, but many argue their goals, ethics, and outcomes differ sharply.
- Some contend Jobs is now underrated, reduced to “asshole genius” clichés; others emphasize his exceptional taste, ability to recruit top talent, and cultural impact.
- Claims that early Apple (“version one”) or the original Macintosh “weren’t commercial successes” are disputed as historically inaccurate within the thread.