Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal
Scale and Plausibility of the Massacre
- Many commenters struggle to grasp the logistics of 36k+ killed in two days, asking how this is possible without heavy explosives.
- Others argue it is sadly feasible in a large country (≈93M people) with 400+ cities seeing protests: ~100 deaths per location, plus execution of wounded protesters in hospitals and detainees.
- Historical analogies (Rwanda, Nazi Germany) are raised to show that mass killing at such rates is logistically possible, though still horrifying.
- Some remain skeptical of the exact number, comparing it to past atrocity exaggerations and calling for better methodology and corroboration from independent sources.
Role of Mercenaries and Internal Divisions
- Several comments claim non-local or foreign proxy forces (from Iraq, Syria, Hezbollah, Arab militants) were used to repress protests, making it easier to kill “outsiders.”
- Others stress Iran’s internal ethnic and religious diversity (Kurds, Azeris, Baloch, Arabs, religious minorities), arguing that even “domestic” forces may see protesters as an outgroup.
- Debate over whether “mercenaries” implies pay-driven killers versus ideologically aligned proxy militias.
Source Reliability and Propaganda Concerns
- Iran International is repeatedly described as Saudi-backed and anti-regime; some see it as “state-aligned influence media” or possibly intelligence-linked.
- Others defend it as diaspora-run and note corroborating reports from human rights groups and mainstream outlets, arguing bias does not imply falsity.
- A thread questions whether inflated numbers might be used to justify foreign intervention or to shape US/Israeli strategic interests.
Global Reactions, Politics, and Double Standards
- Anger that mass killing in Iran gets far less Western public outrage than single domestic incidents (e.g., US police/ICE killings) or some foreign wars.
- Contentious debate over whether “the left,” US college students, and various foreign-backed protest movements are selectively silent due to ideological or financial ties.
- Some argue state violence against citizens and wars between states are treated differently mainly for pragmatic/geopolitical, not moral, reasons.
Sanctions, Protest Strategy, and Future Outlook
- Doubts about sanctions and “civilian pressure” as effective when regimes can rely on external forces to do their killing.
- Civil disobedience (e.g., mass work stoppages) is proposed but seen as hard under censorship and repression.
- Commenters fear this marks the end of peaceful protest in Iran, with the country drifting either toward violent revolution or hardened police-state rule.