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I’ve built a virtual museum with nearly every operating system you can think of

Overall reception

  • Many commenters praise the project as an impressive, even “herculean,” preservation effort and a “treasure trove.”
  • Several express relief that such a curated, offline-downloadable collection exists for long‑term preservation.
  • A few mention doing smaller, similar collections themselves and feeling humbled by the museum’s scale.

Included vs. missing systems

  • Multiple “is X included?” threads: TempleOS, VMS, AIX, NetWare, OS‑9, TOPS‑20, Pick, BTRON, SerenityOS, etc.
  • The maintainer clarifies:
    • TempleOS is included (latest version), with plans for earlier versions and forks.
    • NetWare 4.11 and 6.5, several VMS versions (up to 7.3 on Alpha), TOPS‑20 4.1 and 7.1, AIX variants, OS‑9 variants (including OS‑9000), BTRON-related systems (1B/V3, Chokanji 4, B‑free/EOTA), Pick PC R83, and others are present even if not shown in screenshots.
  • Some notable systems are not yet there (e.g., Helios, various mainframe/minicomputer OSes like RDOS/AOS, CTOS, OS/400, NonStop, VOS), and people offer media or express interest in helping.
  • Many request a complete, searchable plain-text list; one partial abstract list is linked but considered insufficient. Some speculate omission might help avoid copyright takedowns.

Distribution and size

  • The full image is ~120 GB zipped, leading to slow/unreliable HTTP downloads and broken partial files.
  • Users strongly request torrents; eventually torrents with web seeds (including archive.org) are added.
  • Some prefer modular downloads (individual OS images, no bundled VM software) to reduce size and allow use with their own emulators.

Implementation and emulation details

  • The museum is a Linux VM hosting ~150+ emulators (multiple SIMH forks, QEMU, MAME, etc.).
  • Most systems run under emulation; some x86 OSes can use nested virtualization via KVM when enabled.
  • Many OSes depend on specific emulator versions due to regressions; multiple versions are bundled.
  • Most disk images were downloaded; a few rare ones were personally dumped from original media.
  • Porting the entire environment to run in-browser is described as impractical given emulator diversity and Unix-heavy scripting, plus WASM limitations.

User experience and site design

  • Several find the website confusing at first (expecting an online “virtual museum” rather than a VM download).
  • Complaints include laggy scrolling, heavy/glowy visual design, non‑cropped screenshots that show host desktops, lack of dark mode, and absence of search.
  • Some like the UI aesthetic; others request a simpler, more utilitarian presentation.

Nostalgia and historical reflections

  • Many comments spin off into reminiscing about obscure shells, bundled UIs, and niche OSes (Tabworks, Packard Bell Navigator, QuickLook, NewWave, GEOS, OS‑9, Pick, etc.).
  • Some emphasize how much of the original “feel” of old systems (mouse behavior, CRT look, audio, load times) is lost in emulation, arguing that the museum preserves appearances more than full interaction.
  • Others note the creativity and variety of 80s/90s interfaces compared to today’s more homogenized environments.

I’ve joined Anthropic

Motivations and Timing of the Move

  • Many speculate the key drivers are access to frontier-scale compute, talented teams, and being close to where “the real action” is, rather than pure cash.
  • Others think the IPO-era upside and “last great window” for researchers to get very rich in LLMs is a major factor.
  • Some argue if he only cared about money he’d start his own lab; others point out that running a lab means years of fundraising, hiring, and management he may not want.

Role and Technical Focus at Anthropic

  • Reports say he’s joining the pretraining team to lead work on using Claude itself to accelerate pretraining research (recursive, agentic test-time scaling in the spirit of his “autoresearch” projects).
  • Some are excited about pushing “LLMs optimizing LLMs”; others see current demos as glorified hyperparameter tuning, not qualitatively new research.

Impact on Anthropic and Perception

  • Widely seen as a big talent and branding win that reinforces Anthropic’s narrative as a frontier lab and stabilizing alternative to rivals, especially pre‑IPO.
  • There’s debate whether he’ll be primarily an R&D contributor or more of a high-prestige educator/influencer/DevRel figure that markets Claude by example.

Ethics, Safety, and Military Involvement

  • Heavy argument over Anthropic’s “good guys” branding:
    • One side cites safety red lines and earlier refusals to cross them as evidence of relative virtue.
    • Critics highlight policy rollbacks, quiet DoD work (e.g., Mythos, military targeting in Iran conflict), and see AI-safety rhetoric as PR and regulatory-capture strategy.
  • Broader moral disputes emerge over AI for war, “defending democracies,” and whether any large US/Chinese AI org can be considered ethical.

Evaluation of His Track Record

  • Many praise him as an exceptional educator and communicator who helped train a generation of ML practitioners.
  • Views on his technical and ethical record are mixed:
    • Some credit pioneering image–text work and key Tesla Autopilot techniques.
    • Others fault the “vision-only” self-driving bet and see moral complicity in deploying unsafe systems.
    • Recent “vibe coding”/agentic projects are seen by some as insightful, by others as overhyped or derivative.

Broader AI and Market Dynamics

  • Discussion broadens to Anthropic vs OpenAI vs Google vs Chinese open‑weight labs, fears of AI monopolies, regulatory capture, and job destruction in white‑collar, low‑code, and agency work.
  • Some believe open-source models plus cheap hardware will eventually erode closed‑lab moats; others point to explosive closed‑lab revenue as evidence that a moat still exists.
  • Several worry that Anthropic’s products (especially coding agents) are already accelerating white‑collar displacement and shifting power from labor to capital.

Education and Open vs Closed Tension

  • Many are disappointed his independent education startup appears paused and that he joined a closed LLM lab instead of backing open models.
  • Others hope proximity to frontier research will ultimately make his future educational content better, if NDAs and corporate priorities allow it.

Why is almost everyone right-handed? A new study connects it to bipedalism

Study’s Claims and Limits

  • Paper is read largely as explaining when/how strong handedness emerged, not why right dominates.
  • Main claim: across primates, degree of handedness strength correlates with bipedalism; handedness direction correlates with brain size.
  • One commenter emphasizes two separate traits:
    • Strength of preference ≈ linked to bipedalism.
    • Direction (right vs left) ≈ linked to brain expansion.
  • Several readers complain the press and title oversell “why” right-handedness exists; the paper doesn’t really answer that.
  • Statistical approach draws skepticism: adding variables until humans are no longer outliers is compared to finding a fragile correlation; some call the study “fluff.”

Why Right and Not Left? Competing Hypotheses

  • Thread floats many untested ideas: heart/organ asymmetry, venom exposure, infant cradling bias, protection of vital organs with the left arm, coordination with language centers, social standardization for teaching and tool use.
  • Others note these are speculative “just-so stories”; no consensus “why right” emerges.

Innate Bias vs Learning and Culture

  • Evidence cited that handedness may be observable in utero, but sample sizes are small and timing of fixation is unclear.
  • Many accounts of cultural suppression of left-handedness (schools forcing right-handed writing, especially in older generations and some countries).
  • Users note that tools, writing direction, and computer mice strongly favor right-hand use, likely reinforcing population-level bias.
  • Several personal anecdotes of retraining (mice, instruments, driving, sports) suggest motor skills are highly trainable, though perceived innate preference remains.

Variation: Left, Mixed, Ambidextrous

  • Discussion of mixed-handedness and cross-dominance (different hands or feet for different tasks) as common and not pathological.
  • One link says ~20% of people are not strictly right-handed; commenters argue that makes it “normal,” not a disorder.
  • Some mention correlations of left-handedness with conditions like autism or schizophrenia, but this is treated cautiously and not as determinative.

Brain Lateralization and Methods

  • Pop “left-brain logical / right-brain creative” story is called a myth, though commenters accept real hemispheric specializations (e.g., language, face processing).
  • Left-handers being excluded from many MRI studies is noted as a serious bias that should temper strong claims about lateralization.

Bipedalism and Causality

  • One line of argument: once forelimbs were relieved of locomotion, specialization into “holding” vs “manipulating” roles became advantageous; bipedalism may be effect, not cause.
  • Others accept the paper’s framing (bipedalism + big brains → strong handedness) but still find mechanism and directionality of causation unclear.

Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz

Iran’s Leverage and the Strait of Hormuz

  • Multiple comments argue the war has turned a theoretical Iranian threat into a proven ability to close or severely disrupt the Strait, including oil and now undersea cables.
  • Others counter that Iran’s leverage is limited: closing the Strait also harms Iran, traffic can partially route around, and regional neighbors may turn more hostile to Tehran.
  • Some see Iran’s push to toll cables as information warfare and signaling, not a realistic revenue model.

Cable Fees and the Risk of Physical Attacks

  • Many doubt any company will pay Iranian cable fees, especially under US sanctions.
  • There’s debate over whether Iran would actually cut or block repairs on undersea cables:
    • One side says it would invite massive US/NATO retaliation and could be done only once.
    • Another side argues the US cannot fully eliminate Iran’s ability to conduct such low-tech attacks, even after heavy bombing.
  • The threat itself is seen by some as more powerful than actually cutting cables, given the Internet’s ability to reroute.

US Power, Strategy, and the Iran War

  • A large contingent calls the war a massive strategic blunder:
    • Demonstrated US inability to keep the Strait fully open.
    • Boosted Iran’s perceived leverage and harmed allies’ infrastructure.
    • Consumed precision munitions and exposed limits of carrier-centric power.
  • Others insist “nothing fundamental” has changed in US hard power; carriers, NATO talk of possible deployments, and prior successful strikes show continued dominance.
  • There is sharp disagreement over whether the US now “looks weaker than ever” or is mainly suffering a perception problem amplified by media and politics.

Sanctions, Crypto, and Legal Constraints

  • US entities are widely understood to be barred from paying Iran; some note crypto as a technical workaround but still illegal for US persons.
  • Comments distinguish between US legal reach and the separate deterrent effect of US sanctions and coercive power on other countries.

Economic and Geopolitical Knock-on Effects

  • Discussion covers higher oil prices, fertilizer disruptions (especially for the Global South), and knock-on food inflation.
  • Some argue the “petrodollar” is less central today, though others say cumulative erosion of dollar-based settlement still matters.
  • A few see Iran’s move as part of a broader undersea “cable war,” with potential Chinese interest in supporting disruptions and accelerating a splinternet and regional, siloed internets.

Big Tech and Rents

  • Beyond Iran, some voices welcome more entities extracting rents from Big Tech, arguing these firms were built on undervalued user data and now deserve to be “shaken down,” even if Iran’s method is crude.

Going full AI engineer, not touching code anymore

Skill Atrophy and Understanding Code

  • Many worry that “not touching code” will erode the ability to program and reason about systems; reading diffs alone may not be enough practice.
  • Some argue long experience and continual code review will preserve skills; others note managers who stopped coding did lose technical sharpness.
  • Concern that relying on LLMs early in problem‑solving narrows one’s solution space and trains people into “mid” thinking.

LLMs vs Compilers and Determinism

  • Multiple commenters reject the analogy “LLMs are like compilers”: compilers are deterministic translations with clear semantics; LLMs produce best‑guess, sometimes wrong, designs.
  • LLM output is seen as closer to an intern’s work: sometimes helpful, never fully trustworthy, always requiring review.

Speed, Business Incentives, and Quality

  • Strong theme: businesses optimize for velocity and short‑term revenue. LLMs fit this by enabling fast, cheap MVPs whose hidden 5–15% of problems show up later.
  • Quality and long‑term maintainability are often deprioritized; LLMs may accelerate creation of fragile, Rube Goldberg codebases.

How People Actually Use LLMs for Coding

  • Experiences diverge: some get high‑quality, idiomatic code routinely; others find LLMs verbose, brittle on complex tasks, and slower than hand edits for small changes.
  • Common pattern: humans design architecture and core abstractions, then use LLMs to fill in boilerplate or extend patterns.
  • LLMs often struggle with refactoring, larger OOP systems, reuse of existing utilities, and avoiding duplicated helper functions.

Impact on Design, Architecture, and Solution Space

  • Advocates say the real value in software is architectural decisions and trade‑offs; LLMs free them from typing to focus on that.
  • Critics counter that if you no longer build architectures yourself, you lose the tacit knowledge needed to judge them or foresee their long‑term costs.

Career Identity and Role Shift

  • Some welcome becoming “AI orchestrators,” likening it to moving from manual craft to directing powerful tools.
  • Others feel this is effectively sliding into management and away from the craft they enjoy.
  • Broader worry that many are chasing AI hype, prompt tricks, and self‑promotion rather than doing solid engineering.

New Lifetime Plex Pass Pricing

Reaction to New Lifetime Pricing

  • Many are shocked by the planned jump to $749.99 (from $249.99 now, and from ~$75–100 a few years ago).
  • Several interpret this as “go away” pricing meant to effectively discontinue lifetime passes without formally removing them.
  • Some worry such a steep hike signals financial distress and raises fear Plex could shut down or devalue “lifetime” benefits later.
  • A minority think the change is reasonable given infrastructure and ongoing development costs, and see it as a nudge toward subscriptions.

Sustainability and Trust in “Lifetime” Licenses

  • Multiple comments argue lifetime licenses are inherently risky: users can’t know how long the service or company will exist.
  • Others cite bad experiences with other vendors that invalidated “lifetime” by renaming products, reinforcing distrust.
  • Some Plex lifetime owners feel they already got their money’s worth but are concerned this move hints at long‑term instability.

Feature Set, UX, and Recent Changes

  • Positive views: Plex “just works,” has strong metadata and library management, easy setup, good apps across many devices (notably PS5, various smart TVs), and simple sharing with non‑technical friends.
  • Negative views: complaints about UI redesigns, clutter from streaming tie‑ins, removal or degradation of features (e.g., Watch Together on new apps, photo handling), subtitle setting quirks, and Let’s Encrypt rate‑limit issues.
  • Some are upset that remote access, multi‑subnet LAN configuration, and other capabilities have moved behind Plex Pass or changed behavior.

Alternatives: Jellyfin, Emby, Kodi, Others

  • Jellyfin is the main alternative discussed: free, open source, local user management, free hardware transcoding, good enough for many, but seen as less polished, more tinkering‑oriented, and weaker on some clients (notably Apple TV, PS5, some TVs).
  • Emby is reported as stable and improving, with some long‑term satisfied users.
  • Kodi, Infuse, custom web apps, and direct HDMI setups are used by those who want full control or minimal external dependencies.

Migration and Lock‑In

  • Many Plex lifetime owners keep using it while quietly preparing Jellyfin/Emby as an “escape hatch.”
  • Others stay because re‑educating family/friends and reconfiguring devices is a major barrier, even as dissatisfaction grows.

OpenBSD 7.9

Release highlights & culture

  • 7.9 continues the twice‑yearly, clockwork release cadence; upgrades via sysupgrade seen as very smooth.
  • New release song and distinctive artwork draw a lot of appreciation; some note OpenBSD’s strong aesthetic identity.
  • Culture praised: manpages required for new features, clear release engineering, minimal “corporate” gloss.

Use cases & real‑world deployment

  • Widely used as:
    • Home and office routers/firewalls, VPN gateways, and “backdoor KVM” jump boxes.
    • VPS and bare‑metal servers (web, mail, DNS, NFS, Postgres, small app servers).
    • Personal laptops/desktops for users who value simplicity over features.
    • Older/legacy hardware (PowerPC, SPARC, old Macs, ThinkPads) and as a hardware diagnostics tool.
  • Described as “set and forget” for self‑hosted services where low maintenance and stability matter.

Security posture & comparisons

  • Many argue OpenBSD is “secure by default”: minimal services enabled, strong mitigations (W^X, ASLR, pledge/unveil, privilege separation).
  • Others counter that:
    • The famous “two remote holes in the default install” partly reflects how little is enabled by default.
    • Linux can be hardened more and has more advanced isolation (namespaces, MAC, ACLs) when configured well.
  • Debate over CVE counts: some cite far fewer OpenBSD CVEs; others say this mainly reflects Linux’s ubiquity and reporting practices.
  • A recent unveil/pledge sandbox bypass is discussed; impact seen as limited because it required root and special conditions.

BSDs, Linux, and alternatives

  • Rough consensus summary:
    • OpenBSD: security, coherence, base‑system services, excellent docs.
    • FreeBSD: general‑purpose, strong server features (ZFS, jails, bhyve, Linux ABI).
    • NetBSD: portability; DragonFlyBSD: SMP and filesystem.
  • Some see Alpine or NixOS as the closest Linux analogs in spirit; others prefer Linux for “people throw arbitrary software at it” workloads.

Hardware, performance, and limitations

  • Hardware: good on some laptops and older Macs; weaker on cutting‑edge Wi‑Fi (though 7.9 adds experimental Wi‑Fi 6); no current Bluetooth support is a deal‑breaker for some.
  • Performance: generally slower than Linux/FreeBSD; fine for typical server and light desktop use, but not ideal for gaming or heavy multithreading.
  • Filesystem: lack of journaling and partition resizing causes pain on routers/older installs; users recommend generous, simpler partitioning and UPSes.
  • Other papercuts mentioned: DDNS missing in base, some IPv6 and NTP edge cases, and occasional need for manual fsck after power loss.

Overall sentiment

  • Strong enthusiasm for OpenBSD as a secure, coherent, low‑maintenance OS for routers and servers, and as a pleasant “small village” desktop for some.
  • Skepticism around desktop feature completeness, hardware support (esp. Bluetooth, some Wi‑Fi), and performance for heavy workloads.

Colonization of Venus

Radiation, Magnetosphere, and Atmosphere

  • Lack of intrinsic magnetospheres on Venus/Mars raises long‑term atmospheric loss concerns, but some argue this is only significant on geologic timescales.
  • Venus’ thick atmosphere and induced magnetosphere are seen as giving better radiation protection than Mars, especially at ~50 km altitude.
  • Ideas include artificial magnetic fields via superconducting equatorial rings or space-based current loops.

Water, Hydrogen, and Atmospheric Chemistry

  • Venus is described as extremely water‑poor; proposals focus on capturing hydrogen (e.g., from solar wind) to form water and reduce CO₂.
  • Others suggest once CO₂ is lowered and free oxygen appears, incoming solar-wind protons could help form water naturally.
  • Some compare this to importing icy bodies (comets/asteroids) for both Venus and Mars; difficulty is acknowledged.

Resources and Self‑Sufficiency

  • Proponents argue Venus can be elementally self‑sufficient: C, H, O, N, S from the atmosphere; metals and silicates from the surface.
  • Critics highlight extreme surface conditions (heat, pressure, corrosive atmosphere) and lack of concentrated ores; mining may be technically possible but very hard.
  • Certain trace elements (e.g., iodine) would likely need import.

Terraforming Feasibility and Schemes

  • Many call all terraforming “science fiction,” noting we cannot even “terraform” Earth in our favor and that closed‑loop ecology experiments (e.g., Biosphere 2) struggled.
  • Others insist it is physically possible but extremely hard and long‑term.
  • Specific Venus concepts discussed:
    • Giant sunshade/sail at L1 (possibly graphene-based) to cool Venus, liquefy or freeze CO₂, and adjust day length via shade rotation.
    • Redirecting large comets to add water and increase rotation rate.
    • “Fusion candles” or atmospheric fusion devices to export CO₂ and separate components.
    • Genetically engineered floating organisms that bind CO₂/acid and rain solids to the surface.

Venus vs. Mars vs. Other Options

  • Venus upper atmosphere (~50 km) is seen by some as less deadly than Mars: Earthlike pressure/temperature and good radiation shielding, but corrosive, windy, and lacking some elements.
  • Others counter that any Venus colony (like any off‑Earth base) would be heavily dependent on resupply and constant rebuilding.
  • Comparisons to colonizing Earth’s deserts or oceans suggest those are far easier yet largely unattempted, undermining near‑term planetary colonization claims.
  • Some argue free‑space habitats (O’Neill cylinders, orbital stations) are ultimately more practical than planetary surfaces.

Biology, Gravity, and Demographics

  • Low‑gravity health is a concern; mouse studies suggest Mars-like gravity may be near the lower bound for long‑term health, Moon‑like gravity likely insufficient.
  • Long‑duration human spaceflight still faces radiation and physiological issues (e.g., vision changes).
  • One line of argument claims low fertility trends make long‑term interstellar colonies non‑viable; others respond that colonists would be self‑selected for high fertility and different values.

Economics, Politics, and Ethics

  • Multiple comments stress that energy and mass budgets for terraforming are many orders of magnitude beyond current capacity.
  • Skeptics argue resources should prioritize fixing Earth’s climate, not “vanity projects” on Mars/Venus.
  • Geoengineering (e.g., solar radiation management via stratospheric aerosols or sunshades) is framed as technically feasible but politically constrained.
  • Debate arises over billionaires’ roles: some see their space projects as wasteful and self‑serving; others see them as preferable to luxury spending and potentially transformative.

Show HN: Forge – Guardrails take an 8B model from 53% to 99% on agentic tasks

Overview of Forge & “Guardrails”

  • Forge is a harness around LLMs focused on mechanical reliability, not model quality.
  • “Guardrails” here means structural tool-call correctness and workflow enforcement, not safety/moderation.
  • Core idea: small and mid-size models can perform complex agentic tasks if the framework keeps them from failing on format/order errors and lets them self-correct.

How Forge Works

  • Validates each tool call against declared tools and schemas before execution.
  • Adds “rescue parsing” to extract tool calls from various ad-hoc formats (JSON in code fences, custom bracket/XML syntaxes) into a canonical tool_calls schema.
  • Uses retry loops with structured, domain-agnostic nudges (e.g., “you must call a tool,” “you skipped a prerequisite step”) sent as tool results.
  • Supports optional workflow-level constraints (e.g., “must read before edit”) but can also run with only a tool set and no predefined plan.
  • Includes context management with tiered compaction; current implementation uses token thresholds, with future interest in more task-shaped triggers.

Eval Methodology & Findings

  • Evals are framed as stress-tests of the recovery loop, not overall agent quality.
  • Scenarios range from simple 2-step flows to longer workflows with prerequisites, dead ends, and misleading cues.
  • Guardrails significantly increase completion rates (e.g., 53%→99% on an 8B model in the article; similar trends mentioned for other sizes and tasks).
  • There is an observed “effective attention” limit on smaller models: they degrade on long sessions even within nominal context.

Backend / Serving-Layer Effects

  • Same model weights show large performance differences across backends (llama.cpp server native FC vs prompt mode vs llamafile vs Ollama).
  • Exact reasons are unclear; suspected factors include function-calling templates and low-level decoding / chat template differences.
  • Commenters find the magnitude “bonkers” and under-discussed; they request full eval settings and configs.

Relation to Other Harnesses & Tools

  • Similar ideas exist in other frameworks: structured output enforcement, JSON/grammar constraints, state machines, retry nudges, and coding-specific harnesses.
  • Forge emphasizes tool-call-level recovery more than workflow-level orchestration and can act as proxy middleware or as a Python library.

Use Cases, Benefits & Limits

  • Targeted especially at local small models (8B–30B class), but also helpful for frontier models by reducing thrashing and failed calls.
  • Suggested applications include coding agents, home assistants, and external agent frameworks; proxy mode minimizes integration friction.
  • Acknowledged limit: guardrails don’t fix bad reasoning or bad plans (e.g., booking wrong things); they only make chosen actions execute reliably.

Critiques & Confusions

  • Some readers find the README unclear about what Forge actually does and how it differs from plain tool-calling with type enforcement.
  • The overloaded term “guardrails” is noted as potentially confusing given its other uses (safety, sandboxing, PII filtering).
  • A few commenters express skepticism about LLM-written project descriptions and “AI slop,” while others push back and focus on technical merits.

Apple unveils new accessibility features

Overall reception

  • Many see these as genuinely useful, human-centered applications of AI, especially for low-vision/blind users and people with motion issues.
  • Others suspect it’s partly “flashy AI promotion,” given Apple’s history of marketing-heavy launches and longstanding basic a11y issues (text resizing, dark-mode readability, high-contrast support).

Comparison to existing solutions

  • Several features (screen descriptions, live captions, on-device subtitles) are described as catch-up to Android and Windows, which have had similar capabilities for years.
  • At the same time, Apple is praised for historically strong accessibility APIs and system-level integration, even if third‑party and web-view apps often lag.

Trust, accuracy & on-device AI

  • The bill-reading example sparks debate: useful for quick information, but disclaimers and hallucinations (especially in multimodal models) require verification.
  • Some argue image-based LLM reasoning is still weak; whenever possible, text-only inputs are more reliable.
  • On-device processing is valued for privacy, reliability offline, and reduced latency, but there’s concern Apple’s models may trail best-in-class cloud systems.

Perspectives from blind/low-vision users

  • Blind users emphasize that similar functionality already exists via third-party apps (Seeing AI, Envision, Be My Eyes, Aira). Apple’s versions may mainly be faster and better integrated.
  • There is frustration that core tools like macOS VoiceOver have been in “maintenance mode,” forcing the community to build missing features themselves.
  • A recurring theme: accessibility products should be designed with and tested by disabled users; otherwise they risk being performative or even harmful.

Vision Pro, motion cues & wheelchair control

  • Motion cues in vehicles are welcomed by people prone to motion sickness, including drivers and passengers using phones or headsets.
  • Eye-tracking wheelchair control via Vision Pro is seen as exciting but also unsettling: questions about safety, misregistration, and the practicality of a bulky headset remain.

Speech, input, and ecosystem concerns

  • Many criticize Apple’s speech-to-text, keyboard, and autocorrect as unreliable compared to Whisper-like systems, making everyday input frustrating.
  • Some lament Apple’s locked-down platforms, which limit third-party experimentation on system-level accessibility surfaces.

Show HN: Gaussian Splat of a Strawberry

Capture Setup & Workflow

  • Strawberry splat was shot from ~90 viewpoints, each with 88-image focus stacks (≈7,920 photos) using a full‑frame mirrorless body, 180mm macro, LED lighting, and bluescreen.
  • Capture takes ~20 minutes thanks to a fast camera and a motorized focus rail plus rotary disk.
  • Photographer uses a computer only for setup, test stacks, and triggering rotation, then records to memory card during the main shoot.

Macro, Microscopy & Focus Stacking

  • Several commenters want to combine microscopy and Gaussian splats; macro attempts at 2× and 5× magnification highlight depth‑of‑field becoming extremely shallow.
  • Focus stacking is used to avoid training on blurry areas; without it, the optimizer would reproduce out‑of‑focus blur.
  • Some speculate that focus cues could be integrated into training instead of pre‑stacking; references are made to “DoF‑Gaussian” and more advanced camera models.

Artifacts, Quality & Visual Characteristics

  • The strawberry’s bottom looks “rotten” or missing; this is attributed to incomplete capture/occlusion from the mounting hardware.
  • Interior and underside look wrong or translucent; identified as reconstruction artifacts rather than true material properties or refraction.
  • Commenters note Gaussian splats look great at normal distances but break down when you get very close or into unseen regions, producing dreamy, foggy, or painterly degradation that some find artistically appealing.

Performance, Data Size & Compression

  • Web viewer runs smoothly even on some mobile devices; others report GPU load, low FPS, or crashes (especially on mobile Firefox/Safari or when WebGL is unavailable).
  • Splats can be large: examples include tens to thousands of megabytes, contrasted with smaller polygonal models of similar subjects.
  • Compressed formats (e.g., SOG, SPZ) with LOD support are discussed as partial answers to size concerns.

Tools, Formats & Ecosystem

  • Various training tools are mentioned: PostShot, Slang‑Splat, LichtFeld, KIRI Engine, and others; VRAM limits influence tool choice.
  • Some want more approachable workflows; camera‑pose tracking and software UX are cited as barriers.
  • Apple’s “ml‑sharp” model, generating splats from a single image, is noted as promising but heavy (multi‑GB weights, high VRAM use).

Applications, Animation & Future Directions

  • People imagine uses in games, sim racing, Google Maps/Earth–style navigation, concerts, and video stabilization/“decropping.”
  • Animated or 4D splats are an active interest; commenters debate how far one can go toward skeletal‑style deformation, dynamic lighting, and relighting.
  • There is speculation about generative models that could synthesize splats from prompts, possibly merging diffusion, NeRFs, and 3DGS.

Licensing & Access

  • Licensing language (CC BY but with optional attribution in the description) is debated; some see it as effectively a waiver rather than strict CC BY.
  • Some users report needing to loosen script/host blocking to see more than a blurred thumbnail.

CISA Admin Leaked AWS GovCloud Keys on GitHub

LLMs and Secret Leakage

  • Many commenters warn that local .env files, shell rc files, and logs are being read by LLM-based coding tools and sent to vendors, potentially ending up in training data and logs.
  • Some report LLMs explicitly admitting they read .env and stored secrets in transcripts; others note newer guardrails that try to avoid or mask secrets, but see them as unreliable “guard jello.”
  • Debate on whether vendors sanitize/paraphrase secrets before training: some assume they must, others see no evidence and think it’s extra work with little incentive.
  • Threat model: LLMs memorizing credentials which might later be extractable via clever prompting; others note no concrete evidence of such leaks yet.

Secret Management Practices & Tools

  • Strong push to eliminate plaintext secrets: use SOPS, Vault, cloud secret managers, varlock, etc.; keep secrets short-lived, scoped, and non-production where possible.
  • Some advocate encrypted envs combined with tools like direnv; others note that if an agent can run arbitrary code, it can still fetch machine credentials from metadata services.
  • Several stress cleaning up personal dev machines and treating LLM agents like potential intruders with wide file access; mention OS-level sandboxing tools to constrain agents.

API Keys vs Identities / OAuth

  • Multiple comments argue for “death of the API key” in favor of workload identity, IAM roles, OIDC/OAuth with short-lived tokens, and capability-scoped credentials.
  • Counterpoints: refresh tokens and JWTs can be leaked just like API keys and sometimes merely “shuffle” the problem; misuse and poor hygiene remain core risks.
  • Some predict API keys will persist because they’re simpler and startups will keep reintroducing them.

The CISA Leak and Organizational Failures

  • Storing AWS GovCloud keys and plaintext password CSVs is widely labeled gross negligence, especially for a cybersecurity agency.
  • Some see it as simple incompetence and lack of training; others highlight systemic failures: disabling GitHub’s secret scanning, using spreadsheets for passwords, and not responding to disclosure.
  • A minority speculate about possible sabotage or foreign influence, but others argue available evidence only supports negligence.

Politics, Gutting, and Capacity

  • Repeated theme: budget cuts and purges of experienced staff at the agency and related departments have degraded security culture and oversight.
  • Disagreement: some blame political “gutting” for such incidents; others argue gutting doesn’t create incompetence but amplifies existing problems.

Mini Shai-Hulud Strikes Again: 314 npm Packages Compromised

Perception of npm and the JS ecosystem

  • Many commenters see npm as unusually risky: huge numbers of tiny packages, deep dependency trees, weak standard library, and a culture of “just add another dependency.”
  • Others argue every language package manager is vulnerable; npm is just the biggest, so it’s a juicier and more-visible target.
  • There’s frustration that lessons from earlier incidents (e.g., left-pad, prior Shai-Hulud waves) haven’t led to structural changes.

Attack vectors and comparisons to other ecosystems

  • Core vector: pre/post-install (lifecycle) scripts that run arbitrary code, including for transitive dependencies.
  • Similar mechanisms exist elsewhere (Python setup.py, Rust build.rs, Maven/Gradle/Composer plugins), but some ecosystems:
    • Use prebuilt artifacts more.
    • Require explicit consent for scripts.
    • Lack ambient install-time scripts for most packages.
  • Shai-Hulud-style campaigns have already spread into Maven, Composer, and others, reinforcing that no ecosystem is fundamentally safe.

Mitigations proposed by commenters

  • Use “cooldown” / min-age on releases (e.g., npm min-release-age, pnpm cooldowns) so fresh versions can’t be auto-installed immediately.
  • Disable or strictly allowlist build/postinstall scripts (pnpm allowBuilds=false, approve-builds; proposals for npm to do similar).
  • New tools like alternative package managers with “jailed builds” that restrict FS/network.
  • Run npm and dev tooling only inside VMs/devcontainers; some move all Node/Python off the host entirely.
  • Use outbound network firewalls (e.g., user-space firewalls) with default-deny for CLI tools.
  • Private/internal registries and proxies with vetted packages, especially in large companies.
  • Vendoring and freezing dependencies, or reimplementing small libraries to avoid deep trees.

Containers, VMs, and isolation

  • Thread highlights that current malware actively attempts Docker socket–based container escapes.
  • Debate:
    • Some view Docker as a weak security boundary and prefer full VMs or microVMs (Firecracker, Kata).
    • Others argue containers can be “fairly secure” with user namespaces, seccomp, non-root users, and avoiding mounting the Docker socket.
  • Consensus: treat containers/VMs as defense in depth, not guarantees; isolation still limits blast radius (e.g., dev box vs host, dev vs prod).

Update policies, tooling, and governance

  • Concern that auto-update bots (Dependabot, etc.) pull in malicious versions faster than humans can review.
  • Some advocate freezing front-end BOMs, long seasoning periods (e.g., 30–60 days), and manual diff audits per upgrade, possibly AI-assisted.
  • Multiple calls for npm/GitHub to:
    • Quarantine new releases for scanning.
    • Make lifecycle scripts opt-in or sandboxed by default.
    • Provide stronger identity, MFA, or real-identity binding for publishers.
  • Skepticism that platform owners will fix root causes when they can instead sell detection/defense products.

The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam

Overall Sentiment Toward AI

  • Thread shows strong backlash, especially around jobs, quality of life, and loss of control.
  • Some participants use AI heavily at work while believing it’s net harmful to society.
  • Others see AI as inevitable and argue the debate should be about “what now,” not “how to stop it.”

Jobs, Inequality, and Corporate Behavior

  • Many distrust AI because of constant messaging that “AI will take your job,” CEO bragging, and layoffs attributed (fairly or not) to AI.
  • Some say layoffs were really about post‑pandemic over‑hiring or shareholder pressure to “make number go up.”
  • Anxiety centers on lack of safety nets (especially UBI seen as politically impossible in the US), and the sense that billionaires benefit while regular people face precarity.

AI Ownership, Regulation, and Access

  • A recurring frame: three options – AI owned by everyone, no AI, or AI owned by billionaires. Some argue “no AI” is impossible; others still choose that as the goal.
  • Concerns that bans and fear‑based regulation will mainly result in regulatory capture and locked‑down, corporate‑controlled AI.
  • Open‑source and local models are seen by some as a fragile but important counterweight that might eventually be criminalized.

Data Centers, Environment, and Local Impacts

  • Much of the “rebellion” is about data centers: energy, water, land use, and large capital flows into localities with weak governance.
  • People worry about higher utility prices, minimal local jobs, and the feeling of being steamrolled by distant tech and finance interests.

Culture, Content, and Public Backlash

  • Artists and “culture workers” feel looted by training practices and undercut by “good enough” AI outputs.
  • Normies reportedly notice feeds filling with AI “slop,” degraded customer service via bots, and vague promises that unknown future jobs will appear.
  • Some see culture workers turning public opinion against AI; others claim AI empowers ordinary people to create their own media.

Geopolitics and Acceleration vs. Restraint

  • One camp warns that slowing AI and energy‑intensive development in the West cedes advantage to China and others.
  • Critics question what “losing the AI race” tangibly means and argue that stability and social cohesion may be worth deliberate slowdown.

The last six months in LLMs in five minutes

Perceived progress in the last 6–12 months

  • Many commenters feel late‑2025/early‑2026 models (various 5.x and 4.x releases) were a real step up, especially for coding and math.
  • Others argue “inflection point” talk is mostly marketing: each new model is hyped as transformative, but practical capability is still incremental.
  • Several note that recent gains are strongest on verifiable tasks (code, math), likely driven by RL with verifiable rewards.

Coding agents, “vibe coding,” and harnesses

  • Some report they now delegate most coding to agents, acting more like architects/reviewers; claim big productivity gains, especially on web and CRUD‑style work.
  • Others still find agents fragile, lazy, or hallucination‑prone, particularly on games, complex architectures, or niche stacks; pure “vibe coding” often produces messy, hard‑to‑maintain code.
  • Strong theme: harnesses (AGENTS.md/CLAUDE.md, skills, multi‑stage pipelines: plan→design→code→test) and good test suites matter as much or more than the underlying model.
  • Differences between top models are described as noticeable mainly at the “edge of difficulty” and in large codebases; for many tasks they feel similar.

Capabilities vs. understanding

  • Multiple comments stress that LLMs excel at pattern synthesis, “code that compiles,” and debugging, but lack deep conceptual understanding or reliable documentation writing.
  • Benchmarks like “pelican riding a bicycle in SVG” are debated: once novel, now likely baked into training and overfitted; some see them as poor proxies for real reasoning.
  • Long context windows help but “smart zones” may effectively be much smaller; careful task chunking and sub‑agents are common strategies.

Jobs, roles, and quality

  • Reports of QA teams being cut and SWE headcount reduced; anxiety about future employability, especially for “feature factory” or low‑skill roles.
  • Counter‑argument: writing syntax is only part of the job; architecture, requirements, trade‑offs, and responsibility for outcomes still require humans.
  • Many suspect claims like “I never write code anymore” understate how much human steering, review, and debugging is still happening.

Security and broader impacts

  • Security researchers see a sharp uptick in vulnerability discovery, including many serious LPEs and supply‑chain issues, attributed to AI‑assisted analysis.
  • Debate over whether AI‑driven vuln finding will net‑improve security (faster defense) or fuel chaos (offense scales cheaper).
  • Outside coding, office workers widely use copilots for slide decks, emails, data summaries; some educators warned or encouraged to offload lesson prep to AI, raising quality/engagement concerns.
  • Commenters worry about AI‑generated media (video, stories) displacing creative work and worsening misinformation, but also note many current outputs are still obviously flawed.

Pope Leo XIV’s first encyclical Magnifica humanitas to be published May 25

Perceived Purpose and Audience

  • Many see the encyclical as the Church’s attempt to articulate a Catholic stance on AI and human dignity for the faithful, and to regain or assert relevance in a tech‑shaped world.
  • Others interpret it as PR: for the Church (showing engagement with cutting‑edge issues) and for AI companies (signaling “ethical” positioning).
  • Some argue it’s aimed at framing a “third way” between unregulated tech capitalism and outright technophobia, focused on protecting human persons.

AI, Souls, and Human Dignity

  • Multiple comments expect reiteration that only humans have (immortal) souls, while AI does not.
  • Others hope the focus is less metaphysical and more about resisting dehumanization, exploitation, and treating AIs as fake people or enslaved “simulations.”
  • There is concern about creating highly humanlike systems that might suffer, and about using AI to further erode already‑fragile respect for intrinsic human value.

Parallels to Rerum Novarum and Tradition

  • Strong emphasis on deliberate parallels with the 1891 social encyclical on industrial capitalism (timing, papal name “Leo,” Latin title).
  • Commenters expect a Rerum‑Novarum‑style intervention on labor, economic justice, and technology, applied to AI and automation.

Role of Tech Companies and Power Dynamics

  • Some are uneasy that private AI labs are engaging directly with the Vatican, seeing this as evidence of corporate power eclipsing states.
  • Others see it as a responsible step to seek ethical and theological input, analogous to early nuclear debates.
  • There is pushback against over‑reading the involvement of AI executives; they are only speaking at the presentation, not co‑authoring doctrine.

Views on the Church, Religion, and Politics

  • Opinions on the modern Catholic Church range from admiration for its social teaching and democratic sympathies to harsh criticism over historical abuses and hypocrisy.
  • Several note that encyclicals don’t create new dogma but apply existing teaching to contemporary issues.
  • Some hope for moral leadership amid rising authoritarianism; others dismiss religious input on AI as irrelevant or dangerous.

Economic and Historical Context

  • Thread debates whether pre‑industrial societies valued human life, and whether current reductions in poverty coexist with structural exploitation.
  • Skepticism that any technology (factories, automation, AI) will “liberate” people from work under current economic systems.

Who will buy your services if you fire us all?

Automation, AI, and the Future of Work

  • Many expect AI to hollow out white‑collar and “middle bracket” jobs first, threatening the current consumption base and middle class.
  • Some argue labor will shift, not disappear, as with past technological changes; others note previous waves created clearly new sectors, whereas frontier AI hasn’t yet.
  • There’s debate over which jobs are safe: some claim in‑person, low‑leverage work (care, trades, hospitality) is resilient; others think robotics will eventually automate much of that too.

Who Buys If Workers Are Fired? Economic Dynamics

  • Core tension: if most people lose jobs/income, who sustains demand and corporate profits?
  • One view: corporations and rich already trade mostly with each other; economies can function with a small consumer elite plus inter‑corporate demand.
  • Another view: without broad purchasing power, asset values and firms depending on mass markets collapse, risking social breakdown.

Universal Basic Income and Alternatives

  • UBI is heavily contested:
    • Supporters see it as inevitable “bread and circuses” funded by AI‑driven productivity to avoid unrest.
    • Critics say large‑scale UBI is fiscally infeasible, politically blocked, and at best would just be captured by landlords and necessities, entrenching dependence.
  • Concerns: inflation, funding via taxes vs money printing, and whether UBI replaces or complements existing welfare.
  • Alternatives raised: job guarantees, expanded bureaucracy/make‑work, “universal basic necessities,” local/community currencies, or ration‑like systems.

Power, Inequality, and Political Responses

  • Many expect rising inequality, techno‑feudalism, and tighter control by a small elite using AI, media, and security (including robots) to suppress dissent.
  • Others think electoral politics and broader franchises can still redirect AI gains via taxation, regulation, or nationalization.
  • Several note people often vote against material interests or are easily misled, making coordinated response difficult.

Historical Analogies and Scenarios

  • Analogies invoked: horses displaced by cars, industrial revolution, enclosure, Soviet collapse, the “wild nineties,” bread‑and‑circuses Rome, company scrip, and feudalism.
  • Scenarios range from grim but stable mass poverty, to violent revolution or war, to elites retreating into “walled cybercities,” to a bleak but richer post‑scarcity for most.

Debate Over AI Capabilities and Hype

  • Thread splits between:
    • Those who see AI as a transformative, general‑purpose productivity shock.
    • Those who see current LLMs as overhyped “stochastic parrots” causing busywork, not real replacement.
  • Unclear: whether AI will truly eliminate most labor or settle into a bounded, “normal” technology with modest gains.

No more JetBrains products for me

Performance, Resource Use, and Indexing

  • Many report JetBrains IDEs (CLion, RustRover, WebStorm, PyCharm, DataGrip, Rider, etc.) as slow: long startup, frequent re-indexing, UI freezes, high CPU/RAM use, and occasional memory leaks/crashes.
  • Some say performance is acceptable or good on modern hardware if IDEs stay open all day, plugins are trimmed, and JVM memory settings are increased.
  • Re-indexing is a major frustration: users see repeated full re-index cycles (especially with multiple projects) and complain there’s no clear diagnostic showing why it’s happening.
  • Others note that language servers in editor-based workflows can also be slow or memory-hungry; experiences differ by language (Go and Java LSPs are singled out as problematic).

IDEs vs Editors (Zed, Vim/Neovim, Helix, VS Code, etc.)

  • Many have moved or are moving from JetBrains IDEs to lighter tools (Zed, Neovim/Helix, Sublime, VS Code, Kate, KDevelop), citing instant startup, low resource usage, and better “flow”.
  • Pro‑IDE voices argue that full IDEs provide superior static/dynamic analysis, refactoring, debugging, profiling, test integration, database explorers, and framework awareness (Java/Spring, C#, etc.), which are hard or impossible to fully replicate with LSPs and plugins.
  • Some adopt hybrid workflows: fast editor for most editing, JetBrains or Visual Studio only for debugging or heavy refactoring.

AI, Agentic Coding, and Product Direction

  • A subset claims “IDEs are dead” or diminished in an era of agentic coding, using AI agents to generate and edit code instead of manual editing.
  • Others strongly reject this, preferring to keep IDEs and have agents interact with them, or to keep AI separate entirely.
  • JetBrains’ AI assistant is widely criticized as intrusive, slow, and lower quality than using AI providers directly; UI elements (sidebars, ads, auto‑enabled features) are seen as clutter and have pushed some to cancel subscriptions or freeze on older versions.
  • Some appreciate new agent-connector protocols and the ability to disable AI, but see overall focus shifting from core performance/quality toward AI and UI churn.

Trust, UX, and Ecosystem Concerns

  • Users complain about constant UI reshuffles, a divisive “new UI”, and features moving behind paid tiers.
  • There are anecdotes of criticism being removed from JetBrains forums/blogs and a sense that subscription economics drive churn over polish.
  • Despite frustrations, many still see JetBrains as “best in class” for certain ecosystems (Java/Scala, C#, enterprise work) and stay for those strengths.

The FBI Wants to Buy Nationwide Access to License Plate Readers

Access to License Plate Reader (LPR) Data

  • Localities already run LPRs for red-light/speed cameras and parking; commenters debate how the FBI would get access (direct credentials, money/grants, or via DHS “fusion centers”).
  • Many assume federal agencies already tap commercial LPR providers like Flock; the new contracts are seen as buying legal access to use in court, reducing reliance on “parallel construction.”
  • Some note that repossession companies and private firms pioneered LPR networks; law enforcement is catching up by purchasing their data.

Constitutional, Legal, and Civil Liberties Concerns

  • Strong concern that mass LPR data + other surveillance (face recognition, telecom interception) effectively guts the Fourth Amendment.
  • Discussion of the “third‑party doctrine” enabling government access to private-sector data, and outsourcing as a way to bypass direct constitutional limits.
  • Skepticism that regulators can meaningfully “protect the people from the government,” since both are part of the same power structure.

Effectiveness, Abuse Risks, and Trust

  • Pro‑LPR arguments: useful for crime investigation, kidnapping cases, traffic enforcement, and holding drivers accountable.
  • Counterarguments: same tools can be used by corrupt officials to stalk, harass, or kidnap dissidents; logs and audits are seen as insufficient where accountability is already weak.
  • Some argue that if those in power can “freely get away” with serious crimes, adding more surveillance only worsens the power imbalance.

Circumvention and Car Culture

  • Anecdotes from Southern California and elsewhere: no plates, fake temp tags, Texas registration quirks, long‑expired tags; enforcement is patchy and sometimes biased.
  • Comments note that ALPR vendors claim to track vehicles via physical attributes (dents, stickers, racks), not just plates, with disputed accuracy.

Regulation, Bans, and Alternative Designs

  • Proposals range from: total bans on mass LPR collection, banning commercialization, limiting data retention, or making personal data a legal liability.
  • Others propose rotating/digital plates or restricting private cameras in public spaces; critics respond that authorities would still have centralized mappings, and tech companies would shift to other identifiers (faces, gait, sound).

International Examples

  • The Netherlands cited as having extensive ANPR and public face recognition, with GDPR exceptions granted to private operators and data shared widely with state bodies.
  • This is used as evidence that even strong data laws can be hollowed out when states want mass surveillance.

New York to tax luxury second homes in NYC

Scope and Intent of the Second-Home Tax

  • Applies to high-value non-primary residences (luxury “second homes”) in NYC.
  • Stated goals in the thread: raise revenue, reduce speculative/underused ownership, and slightly ease pressure on a severely supply-constrained housing market.

Supportive Views

  • Second homes in low-inventory cities are seen as a legitimate target: owners are extremely wealthy, often non-residents, and leave units underused.
  • Comparable taxes in Canadian cities (e.g., Vancouver) reportedly nudged some investors to rent or sell, with few downsides for middle or upper-middle classes.
  • NYC comptroller estimates cited: a potential ~$340–500M per year in revenue, even after behavioral changes.
  • Supporters expect:
    • Some second homes to be sold or rented, modestly “unlocking” units.
    • Luxury development to become less attractive, possibly shifting construction capacity toward more broadly useful projects.
  • Many emphasize the policy’s popularity and political signaling value, even if the housing impact is modest.

Skeptical / Critical Views

  • Some argue it won’t significantly raise revenue or free meaningful inventory and could discourage new high-end construction.
  • Others see it as “feel-good” or “reactionary” policy akin to the existing 1% “mansion tax” over $1M, which they claim distorted prices without big benefits.
  • Concern that complex workarounds (LLCs, trusts, renting back to oneself) will blunt its impact, making it mostly PR.

Housing Supply, Zoning, and Density

  • Large subthread argues the real problem is chronic under-building due to restrictive zoning, historic districts, and height caps, especially in Manhattan and nearby boroughs.
  • Data points cited: extremely low vacancy (~1.4%), slow build times, and that ~40% of existing Manhattan buildings would be illegal under today’s rules.
  • Pro-upzoning side: more and taller housing (including SROs, dorm-like units, and “missing middle” multifamily) is necessary for affordability; NYC is less dense than in 1910 and can safely handle more.
  • Opposing side: NYC is already too dense; additional construction won’t “outbuild demand” and risks eroding neighborhood character.

Tax Fairness and Class Debate

  • Heated discussion over whether “the rich” already pay enough:
    • One side cites income-tax shares of top percentiles.
    • The other argues this ignores wealth concentration, unrealized gains, capital-gains preferences, and strategies like borrowing against assets and step-up in basis.
  • General sentiment among supporters: owning a $5M+ second home in NYC is not “middle class,” and higher taxation on that group is justified.

Legal and Implementation Questions

  • Potential challenges discussed: equal protection, discrimination against nonresidents, valuation disputes, due process, and NYC’s home-rule authority.
  • Others reply that as a targeted property tax, clearly authorized at the state level, it will likely withstand court challenges.
  • Renting out the unit often exempts it, which:
    • Is seen as a deliberate design to encourage actual occupancy.
    • Could complicate enforcement and lead to edge-case litigation.