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The AI coding trap

Planning-first workflows

  • Many advocate “don’t write code yet” prompting: have the agent propose a plan, alternatives, and risks before edits.
  • Design docs, CLAUDE.md/AGENTS.md, and pseudocode are used to guide execution and maintain consistency.
  • “Plan mode” exists in several tools, but reports say some agents still modify files; workflows with explicit approvals or YOLO mode on isolated branches with incremental commits are common.

Memory, context, and “learning”

  • Strong desire for durable, session-independent memory that doesn’t consume context and isn’t lossy; current workarounds include summaries, RAG, memory banks, and MCP “fact stores.”
  • Several note fundamental limits: models don’t truly learn across sessions and struggle with massive contexts without strong relevance filtering.
  • Users claim compounding value comes from them learning to wield the tools, not from the models learning.

Where LLMs help most

  • Scaffolding and boilerplate (tests harnesses, CI/CD, SDKs, build configs), stubs, and repo setup; speeding prototyping and exploration.
  • Systematic use across lifecycle (planning, docs, test writing, refactors) can add leverage; some report large speedups, others modest or none.
  • TDD support is mixed: agents can generate tests, but assertions and coverage can be wrong without tight constraints.

Quality, maintenance, and risk

  • Recurrent risks: duplicated code, inconsistent patterns, “messy codebases,” loss of mental model, and hidden failures (“buggy compiler” analogy).
  • Debugging or reviewing AI-written code can be harder than writing it; several prefer writing code to avoid later cleanup.
  • Mitigations: constrain scope, modularize, use strong typing, enforce standards, CI/e2e tests, small tasks, and explicit plans.

Productivity impact and “thinking vs coding”

  • Disagreement on where time goes: some say thinking dominates so codegen offers modest gains; others say LLMs accelerate thinking via rapid iterations and alternatives.
  • Coding and thinking are seen as intertwined; faster throwaway prototypes can improve design decisions.

Roles, juniors, and learning

  • Pushback on “LLMs are junior devs”: models don’t ask clarifying questions or retain context; humans do.
  • Concern that heavy reliance can erode deep understanding and hinder junior growth; some deliberately code without AI to preserve skills and enjoyment.

Process and governance

  • Best results come from plan–build–test–reflect loops, constraint design, and comprehensive automated testing.
  • Accountability remains human: clearer standards, review discipline, and guardrails are needed, especially as some orgs mandate AI use.

When I say “alphabetical order”, I mean “alphabetical order”

What behavior is being debated

  • Thread centers on GUI file managers that use “natural” (a.k.a. numeric‑aware) sorting for filenames, while terminals and classic tools use strict character‑by‑character (lexicographic) sorting.
  • Example: file-2.txt after file-10.txt in strict sort vs. after file-1.txt in natural sort.
  • The article’s concrete case: mixed camera filename formats like IMG_20250820_055436307.jpg vs IMG_20250820_095716_607.jpg get reordered unexpectedly when numeric segments are interpreted as numbers.

Natural vs. strict lexicographic / “alphabetical”

  • Many commenters say natural sort is overwhelmingly what users expect: numbered items, versioned files, episodes, screenshots, etc. should order 1,2,3,…,10, not 1,10,2….
  • Others argue the opposite: filenames are strings, so sort should be purely lexicographic; “numbers aren’t in the alphabet” and any numeric semantics are extra “magic.”
  • Several people note the author is really asking for “lexicographic” or “ASCII/UTF sort”, not “alphabetical,” and that “alphabetical order” is itself underspecified.

Labeling and configurability

  • Strong view that the real bug is UI wording and lack of options: if the menu says “Name,” not “Alphabetical,” it’s not lying—just vague.
  • Many advocate two modes: e.g., “Name (natural)” vs “Name (strict)” or a deep preference toggle. KDE/Dolphin and Windows (via registry / Group Policy) are cited as offering such switches.
  • Others push back: every extra option multiplies complexity and test surface; defaults should favor the majority use case.

Unicode, locales, and standards

  • Multiple comments emphasize that “real alphabetical” is messy in Unicode: locale‑dependent ordering, accents, digraphs, case, and digit characters make any single rule arbitrary.
  • References to the Unicode Collation Algorithm, CLDR, ICU, and specific tricky locales (e.g., Czech “ch”, Swedish å/ä/ö, Turkish dotted/undotted i).
  • Numeric collation (“kn” option, natural sort) is explicitly a configurable extension in these standards, not a universal default.

Edge cases where natural sort is bad

  • Hash‑like filenames, GUIDs, random IDs, or hex strings become harder to scan when digit runs are reinterpreted as numbers.
  • Mixed date formats, decimals, scientific notation, locale‑specific separators, and leading zeros produce ambiguous expectations; natural sort only “just works” for a narrow subset.
  • Users dealing with large photo collections often prefer sorting by metadata (EXIF date) rather than filename at all.

Philosophy: smart defaults vs. dumb tools

  • One camp prefers “dumb but predictable” tools that never guess, even if that requires zero‑padding names.
  • Another camp prefers “mind‑reading” behavior that fits lay expectations 99% of the time, accepting occasional surprises.
  • Several note a broader trend: UIs removing advanced options in favor of opinionated defaults, frustrating power users who want explicit control.

When I say “alphabetical order”, I mean “alphabetical order”

What “alphabetical” means vs. what UIs do

  • Many file managers sort “by name” using natural/number-aware collation (treat digit runs as numbers), not strict lexicographic/character-by-character order.
  • Several argue “alphabetical” is ill-defined: case, digits, punctuation, Unicode, diacritics, locale rules all complicate it. Others say the concrete issue is just numbers inside names.

Defaults, labeling, and user control

  • Broad support for natural sort as the sensible default for most users (e.g., photo_2 before photo_10).
  • Critique: UIs often label it “Name,” not “Alphabetical,” which avoids a false promise but still surprises users expecting classic lexicographic order.
  • Recurrent request: expose both modes. Examples given where KDE/Dolphin offers toggles; Windows/macOS have APIs and even registry/GPO switches. Some push back on option bloat; others argue this is a core behavior worth a visible toggle.

Edge cases and ambiguity

  • Natural sort breaks down with:
    • Decimals (1.10 vs 1.2), scientific notation, negatives/hyphens, thousands separators, locale differences.
    • Hex IDs, hashes, GUIDs, mixed numeric lengths, inconsistent camera filenames (e.g., milliseconds with/without separators).
  • Disagreement on leading zeros: should they imply lexical treatment or just be shorter numeric representations?
  • Date-in-name formats: ISO-like YYYY-MM-DD works lexically; “September/October Budget” or dd.mm.yyyy can confound both modes.

Unicode and locale realities

  • Sorting isn’t just A–Z: case folds, diacritics, digraphs (e.g., Czech “ch”), dotted/dotless i, and language-specific collation rules matter.
  • Standards exist (Unicode Collation Algorithm, CLDR; ICU implementations) with a numeric option (“kn”) but numeric sorting is not a universal default in DUCET.

CLI vs GUI expectations

  • Shell tools often default to lexicographic; many provide numeric/version-aware options (e.g., sort -V, ls -v, alternative tools).
  • GUI file managers generally default to natural sort; some also case-insensitive.

Workarounds and practices

  • For predictable ordering across contexts: zero-pad numbers, use delimiters, adopt ISO-like date formats in filenames.
  • For photos: sort by metadata (Date Taken) when available; caveats noted about copied files losing FS timestamps but EXIF persists.

Proposed resolutions

  • Better naming in UI: “Name (natural)” vs “Name (strict)”.
  • Keep natural as default, but make strict lexicographic easily discoverable.
  • Avoid overly “smart” heuristics beyond digit-run-as-number; complexity quickly becomes surprising and inconsistent.

Privacy Badger is a free browser extension made by EFF to stop spying

Contextual vs. Personalized Ads

  • One side argues for “context-sensitive” ads tied to current content (e.g., car ads on car videos) as more logical, less creepy, and often more relevant than history-based targeting.
  • Others say contextual signals alone are weak (e.g., watching TV-repair videos for entertainment), and that combining context with user profiles and past behavior yields higher ROI.
  • Several commenters note that in many product categories, the best predictor of the next purchase is a recent related purchase or interest, so retargeting can be rational even if it feels dumb to individuals.

Do Personalized Ads Actually Work?

  • Multiple participants with ad-tech experience insist behavioral ads are measurably more effective (higher conversion/ROI) and that huge budgets and constant A/B testing would quickly kill ineffective approaches.
  • Skeptics cite academic work and structural incentives: metrics can be biased to make ad products look good; attribution is murky; and some spend may chiefly “move” sales timing or steal credit from organic discovery.
  • There’s recognition that even if effect sizes are smaller than claimed, they are not zero, and this strengthens, rather than weakens, the privacy argument against tracking.

Economic and Social Costs of the Ad Ecosystem

  • Example: in home-cleaning services, a large share of the fee goes to Google ads and intermediaries, not the worker; commenters call this a “Google tax” and part of a broader rent-extracting middleman economy.
  • Debate over whether advertising primarily reallocates customers among similar providers or genuinely helps discovery, and whether high marketing costs crowd out local relationships and word-of-mouth.

Attitudes Toward Ads

  • Many users object more to UX harms (interruptions, clutter, bandwidth, mobile misery) than to tracking per se.
  • YouTube’s non-contextual, intrusive mid-rolls are a frequent complaint; some advocate Premium + tools like SponsorBlock, others reject paying due to broader platform issues.

Privacy Badger, uBlock Origin, and Browser Features

  • Privacy Badger is framed as a tracker detector/learner (per-host allow / cookie-only / block), complementary to list-based blockers like uBlock Origin.
  • Some see it as redundant on hardened Firefox + uBO setups; others value unique features (automatic learning, link rewriting, click-to-activate widgets, upcoming cookie-banner auto-reject).
  • There’s a side debate about whether additional extensions increase fingerprintability versus clearly improving privacy from third-party trackers.

Privacy Badger is a free browser extension made by EFF to stop spying

Personalized vs. Contextual Ads

  • Strong call for contextual ads (match ads to current content) as more relevant and privacy-friendly; cited as how YouTube “should” work.
  • Pushback that behavioral/personalized ads generally outperform contextual in ROI, CTR, and conversion, so the industry isn’t irrational for using them.
  • Middle ground: use contextual when sufficient; fall back to generic or broader categories.
  • Practical challenges: many contexts lack clear matches (e.g., niche hobby videos), adjacency risks in news, and higher manual curation costs.

Ad Effectiveness and Measurement

  • Advocates of personalization cite extensive internal data and direct click-to-purchase tracking.
  • Skeptics argue attribution is murky, incentives bias metrics, and independent studies find smaller-than-claimed effects. Retargeting may simply capture inevitable purchases or clicks “out of curiosity.”
  • Debate over post-purchase targeting: some say it works via reinforcement/substitution; others find it obviously wasteful for infrequent purchases.

Market Power, Costs, and Externalities

  • Claims that ad platforms (especially search/display) act as rent-seeking middlemen, extracting a “tax” that raises consumer prices and shifts revenue from local providers/publishers.
  • Concerns about monopolistic control of both buy and sell sides, auction opacity, and fraud risks; calls for structural remedies/divestitures.
  • Counterpoint: advertising spend exists because it increases profits; banning or slashing ads would mainly reduce demand for upstarts versus incumbents.

Privacy Badger vs. Other Tools

  • Some say Privacy Badger (PB) is redundant with uBlock Origin (uBO) and modern Firefox protections; others argue PB is complementary, not a pure ad blocker.
  • PB highlights: dynamic learning of trackers, per-domain modes (allow/block cookies/block), click-to-activate widgets, Do Not Track/Global Privacy Control signaling, search-link rewriting; working on automatic cookie-consent opt-outs.
  • uBO noted for powerful request/content filtering and scriptlet injection; NoScript and LocalCDN mentioned for deeper control and local font/CDN replacements.

Usability, Breakage, and Platforms

  • Reports of increasing site breakage; PB suggests site-level disabling and reporting broken sites to improve heuristics.
  • Platform caveats: best on Firefox (including Android); limited/unsupported on Safari iOS and Chrome Android. Brave users may rely on built-in blocking.

YouTube Experiences

  • Frustration with irrelevant, interruptive ads; suggestions for Premium and SponsorBlock (or built-in equivalents), with trade-offs across devices and risk of third-party apps.

Privacy Model and Fingerprinting

  • One view: extra extensions increase uniqueness. Rebuttal: blocking third-party trackers reduces exposure; fingerprinting-based detection exists but is not universal. Tor browser offers stronger uniformity but different trade-offs.

Cloudflare Email Service: private beta

Integrated email on Cloudflare: appeal and use cases

  • Many developers welcome built-in transactional email in Workers to avoid juggling SES/SendGrid/Resend for simple things like signups, password resets, and contact forms.
  • People using Cloudflare’s developer stack (Workers, KV, R2, Queues, Durable Objects) see this as another step toward Cloudflare as a full-stack “AWS-like” cloud with much better DX.
  • Some like that Cloudflare will auto-handle SPF/DKIM/DMARC and hope for features like idempotency keys and simple APIs/SMTP so existing apps can swap providers easily.

Alternatives, pricing, and “root” providers

  • Thread compares this to SES, SendGrid, Mailgun, Postmark, Resend, Mailgun/Mailjet, Zeptomail, smtp2go, etc. Many want SES-level pricing with Resend-level ergonomics.
  • Small projects are very sensitive to fixed monthly plans; pay‑per‑use or very low tiers are strongly requested.
  • Several mention that most “modern” email services are just wrappers around a small number of underlying MTAs; some welcome Cloudflare as another “root” sender.

Self‑hosting vs middlemen

  • Long debate: some say email is now too hostile and reputation‑driven for ordinary people to self‑host, forcing everyone to use intermediaries.
  • Others with long-running personal mailservers insist deliverability is fine if you have clean IPs, correct DNS (SPF/DKIM/DMARC, rDNS), and modest volume; tools like docker-mailserver, mailu, mox are cited.
  • Consensus: bulk or marketing traffic from fresh or cheap VPS IPs is very likely to be treated as spam; low‑volume personal mail is much more feasible.

Centralization, MITM, and governance concerns

  • Strong worries about Cloudflare becoming a single chokepoint: already fronting a huge share of HTTP(S) traffic, now potentially a big email sender too.
  • Critics describe Cloudflare as de facto MITM for web and soon mail, an attractive asset for intelligence services and censorship regimes, and a “protection racket” securing business traffic while reshaping the internet around commercial norms.
  • Some argue such critical infrastructure should be regulated like a utility or even nationalized; others mistrust governments more than corporations and instead advocate decentralization and multiple independent providers.

UX, blocking, and bot defense

  • Many users complain about Cloudflare CAPTCHAs, “infinite challenges,” and opaque blocking, especially from VPNs, CGNAT, Tor, niche browsers, and privacy setups (heavy adblocking/JS blocking).
  • Site operators counter that bot/DDoS traffic is overwhelming and Cloudflare dramatically cuts load and cost; they see CAPTCHAs as an unpleasant but necessary tradeoff.

Deliverability, reputation, and reliability questions

  • Some are skeptical Cloudflare can maintain clean IP/sender reputation at scale, given potential abuse and their “libertarian” compliance stance.
  • Others point out that email deliverability is already dominated by a few big providers (Google, Microsoft); Cloudflare may simply become another large, trusted origin.
  • There’s lingering distrust from the earlier Workers–MailChannels integration that vanished, stranding some users; people want assurances this is a long‑term, first‑party product.

Vendor lock‑in and “eggs in one basket”

  • Some worry that moving DNS, hosting, and email to Cloudflare concentrates too much risk (downtime, policy change, account bans).
  • Others argue Cloudflare’s ubiquity actually makes them a “safe” dependency, and lock‑in for stateless/static use cases is relatively low compared to traditional clouds.

Hypercapitalism and the AI talent wars

Skepticism about the AI bubble and “hypercapitalism”

  • Several commenters see current AI hiring and capex as classic bubble behavior: money has “nowhere else to go,” so it floods into GPUs and star researchers, not obviously into sustainable businesses.
  • Some argue we may have passed “peak AI” in the current paradigm: hardware gains are flattening, serving costs are high, and most products don’t yet justify their economics.
  • Others counter that if AI is truly transformative, massive spending and acceleration are justified, even if returns are uncertain and long-dated.

10x / 1000x engineer and what’s really being bought

  • Many reject the literal idea of “1000x” contributors in terms of output or story points; impact is seen as mostly team-based.
  • Defenders say “1000x” can make sense in terms of business value: one person’s insight or automation can displace the work of many teams or unlock huge revenue.
  • A strong subthread: these mega-deals are mostly about specialized experience (training frontier-scale models, running infra at billion-user scale), not raw “talent.”

Capital allocation, morality, and inequality

  • Some view $100B+ AI budgets as immoral misallocation while climate, energy transition, and inequality go underfunded; AI datacenter power demand is seen as directly worsening emissions.
  • Others argue large R&D spends are better than hoarding cash, and that wasteful R&D is still R&D; the main problem is broader wealth concentration and financialization, not AI specifically.
  • Long subthreads debate money supply (M2), inflation, who benefits from asset inflation, and whether “throwing ridiculous cash” into talent actually reduces or reinforces inequality.

Labor power, capitalism, and political economy

  • Commenters worry AI will erode workers’ bargaining power by commoditizing expertise, shifting power further to capital owners.
  • Others note AI could also lower the cost of starting firms, weakening VC leverage.
  • There are broader arguments over capitalism vs “Nordic” social democracy, inheritance and copyright, and whether concentrated economic power inevitably corrupts politics.

VC strategy and AI exploration

  • Some criticize current “talent wars” as over-indexed on exploitation: overpaying a narrow elite instead of funding many small, weird, exploratory efforts.
  • Historical analogies (Manhattan Project, oil, nuclear weapons, the printing press) are used on both sides to argue for either aggressive acceleration or more cautious, diversified investment.

Hypercapitalism and the AI talent wars

State of the AI talent market

  • Mega-comp offers and team “blitzhires” seen as a bubble by some, a rational grab for scarce experience by others.
  • Many argue offers target “experience at scale” (shipping/training models for billions), not innate “talent.”
  • Deals often stock-heavy with vesting/performance clauses; signing bonuses alone can be life-changing.

Productivity and “10x/1000x” debate

  • Pushback on “1000x” claims; impact is not story points. Outlier impact may come from roadmap/design leverage or broad automation.
  • Skeptics see the meme as hype to justify outsized comp; defenders say rare contributors can drive disproportionate business value.

Economics, costs, and sustainability

  • Doubts that hardware economics will improve: GPUs are costly; energy/bandwidth dominate; unclear profitability for frontier LLMs.
  • Disagreement over money supply/wealth concentration as root cause. Some say “cash sloshing” fuels bidding; others dispute M2 narratives.
  • Environmental/energy concerns: scaling LLMs may exacerbate power demand; ethical value of $100B+ AI spend is contested.

Corporate tactics, poaching, and culture

  • “Blitzhire” framed as acquisition-by-speed, skirting traditional antitrust review; can damage morale and investor trust.
  • Past layoffs and no-poach history cited as eroding loyalty; claims of a “social contract” dismissed by others as myth.

Market structure and capital allocation

  • Fear that platform giants will hoover up apps/talent, entrenching monopolies; pessimism about application-layer opportunities.
  • Critics urge broader exploration: fund many small, interdisciplinary bets vs over-indexing on a few stars; note “dark horse” breakthroughs.

AGI, hype, and returns

  • First-mover-advantage assumptions questioned; unclear what durable moats exist for AGI.
  • Some expect frothy valuations on “AGI announcements”; others predict volatility and pretenders.
  • Comparisons to sports salaries: paying for proven performance vs hype; risk of complacency post-payday noted.

AI in games and procedural content

  • Idea: local model augmentation for dynamic NPC dialogue; potential for immersion in systemic/sandbox games.
  • Counterpoint: predictable, signposted dialogue has design value; “AI slop” risks confusing players; procedural content best as backdrop.

Pace, externalities, and morality

  • Dispute over “faster is better”: second-order societal effects and climate costs cited.
  • Analogies (printing press, oil, nukes) used on both sides; outcomes seen as path-dependent and uncertain.