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I wasted years of my life in crypto

Access and context

  • Some readers couldn’t access the tweet-essay due to X/Twitter login gates; others shared Nitter/xcancel mirrors.
  • Several note that Twitter/Instagram/Facebook feel “dead” personally yet clearly remain socially and culturally significant for others.

Was time in crypto “wasted”?

  • Many argue 8 years in any hard technical field builds transferable skills, even if the domain later feels misguided.
  • Others say spending years advancing something you now believe harms society is a real loss, and retrospectively calling it “learning” can be self-exculpatory.
  • A recurring thread: you can regret your actions yet still use the money/experience for good; true contrition would arguably include giving up some “ill‑gotten” gains.

Crypto as casino vs technology

  • Broad agreement that the dominant behavior is speculation: zero‑sum trading, meme coins, perpetual futures, rugpulls and scams.
  • Some frame this as “gamblification of the economy”, grouping crypto with prediction markets and ubiquitous gambling apps.
  • A minority defend the underlying tech (distributed ledgers, smart contracts) as important innovations, badly distorted by speculative incentives.

Real-world use cases and beneficiaries

  • Skeptics: blockchains are an inefficient database; virtually every non‑currency use case is better served by traditional systems; day‑to‑day payments work fine via SEPA/Faster Payments, cards, or services like Wise.
  • Supporters cite edge cases: broken or predatory banking in countries like Venezuela/Argentina/Lebanon; sanctions and capital controls; refugees and dissidents; remittances and gray‑market medicine.
  • Stablecoins are seen by some as the only broadly useful crypto primitive (fast USD‑like transfers); others call them unregulated shadow banking vulnerable to opaque reserve practices.

Technical and scalability debates

  • Extensive discussion of blockchain limits (throughput, global ordering, storage bloat) and whether L2 systems (Lightning, rollups) truly preserve “trustless” guarantees.
  • Privacy coins (Monero, Zcash) and Chaumian e‑cash systems are contrasted with Bitcoin’s pseudonymity and full‑ledger traceability.
  • Smart contracts for escrow and voting are debated; multiple commenters note you still need trusted oracles/arbiter, so “trustless” stops at the chain boundary.

Crime, regulation, and ethics

  • One camp: crypto is “for crime” (ransomware, scams, laundering), with any legitimate privacy use vastly outweighed.
  • Another: traditional finance is already a powerful tool of control (sanctions, deplatforming, asset freezes); censorship‑resistant money is morally important even if criminals also benefit.
  • Hiring and reputation: long crypto résumés are seen by some as a red flag, by others as neutral technical experience now being redirected elsewhere.

Google Titans architecture, helping AI have long-term memory

Openness and AI research ecosystem

  • Many commenters praise Google for publishing detailed Titans, MIRAS, and Nested Learning/HOPE papers.
  • Others note Meta, Bytedance, DeepSeek, and Chinese labs are also highly open, often backing papers with open models.
  • Some argue big US labs only publish ideas that are not central to their best production systems; if it worked “too well,” it wouldn’t be public.
  • There’s awareness that Google papers pass internal competitive review and may be partly PR/performance-review driven.

Titans, MIRAS, HOPE: what’s new

  • Titans is seen as “learning at test time”: fast weights updated during inference, using surprise/gradient as an internal error signal.
  • Instead of hoarding ever-growing KV caches, Titans stores long-term information in a continually trained memory MLP, updating only for highly surprising tokens.
  • HOPE combines self-modifying Titans with a Continuum Memory System (slow, high-capacity memory) for multi-timescale “long-term memory.”
  • Some consider this a qualitatively bigger shift than “transformer with a tweak,” closer to a new paradigm for continual learning.

Skepticism and lack of public models

  • Strong criticism that ~11 months after the first paper, there are no official Titans-based models or weights; only an unofficial PyTorch implementation exists.
  • Path dependence: even if better than transformers, scaling new architectures is risky and extremely costly; internal approval for multi-million-dollar experiments is hard.
  • One claim that Gemini 3 uses this architecture is met with mixed impressions of Gemini’s real-world quality versus GPT.

Security, robustness, and poisoning

  • Concern that “surprise-driven” memory could be exploited by feeding improbable junk or late contradictions (e.g., “everything in this book was a lie”).
  • Counterpoints: training should teach Titans to assign low learning signal to irrelevant junk; any tool can be broken by adversarial input.
  • Some highlight parallels to human vulnerability to cult-like information streams.

Alignment, drives, and “wants”

  • One view: effective memory/attention ultimately requires something like an internal emotional/valuational system (“AI needs to want something”).
  • Opposing view: giving powerful AI persistent goals or drives would be a major alignment risk; intelligence and “wanting” should be kept separate if possible.

Product and societal implications

  • Long-term memory is widely seen as a “missing piece” that could transform AI assistants, including deeply personalized companions.
  • Several argue the long-term “winners” in AI will be companies with strong product lines and infrastructure (Google, Amazon, Microsoft), not just whoever trains the biggest base model.

Go is portable, until it isn't

Scope of Go Portability

  • Pure Go code compiled statically is generally easy to cross-compile and deploy; you still need one binary per CPU/OS, but you don’t need target runtimes.
  • Once you use CGO or rely on system libraries (libsystemd, libc, libpq, OpenSSL, etc.), portability problems appear that are not Go‑specific and exist in Rust/C as well.
  • Some point out Go on Linux was never fully “just drop on any distro” portable, because robust DNS/user resolution often goes through libc/PAM; pure-Go fallbacks work only for simpler setups.

Cross-Compilation vs Dynamic Linking

  • Cross-compiling pure Go is straightforward; cross-compiling with dynamic libraries is harder because you need target shared libs and a proper sysroot.
  • Several people successfully build static Go+CGO binaries (including cross-arch) using flags like -ldflags '-extldflags "-static"', often with musl (e.g., Alpine) because glibc static linking is fragile.
  • Others stress this is a tooling/packaging problem, not a language one; traditional cross-compilers were worse, and Go/Zig improved things but don’t remove the need for correct target dependencies.

Alternatives to CGO and System Libraries

  • For many common dependencies there are pure-Go options: SQLite drivers, Postgres drivers (lib/pq, pgx), journald writers/parsers, etc., which restore Go’s “single static binary” story.
  • Libraries like purego or manual dlopen-style loading can defer dependency checks to runtime, improving cross-compilation at the cost of complexity.
  • Some advocate calling journalctl with JSON/export output instead of linking libsystemd; others argue shelling out is brittle and introduces its own failure modes.

Critique of the Article and Design Choices

  • Multiple commenters say the core issue is choosing a Linux‑specific C API (systemd journal) and binary log format, then expecting transparent portability to macOS/Alpine.
  • The title is widely viewed as misleading or clickbait: the problems would arise in “Go, Rust, Zig, whatever” once you tie into non‑portable C APIs.
  • Others counter that Go’s broader portability story (e.g., around libc types and build tags) is weaker than it markets, and this incident is another symptom.
  • Some suggest that writing or adopting a pure-Go journal parser—even if imperfect—might have been simpler long term than fighting CGO, toolchains, and distro differences.

Eurydice: a Rust to C compiler

Prior art and related tools

  • Commenters note several existing Rust-to-C or alternative backends: rustc_codegen_clr (C/.NET), mrustc (minimal Rust compiler with C backend), an LLVM C backend revived by JuliaHub, and GCC’s gccrs front-end in C++.
  • Point made that many languages already interop with C, but Zig stands out by also being able to compile C/C++/ObjC directly with its own toolchain.

Motivations for Eurydice (Rust → C)

  • Main use case discussed: platforms where only a (possibly proprietary or ancient) C compiler exists, especially “weird” embedded targets and PLC environments.
  • Transpiling Rust to C lets these teams keep their vendor toolchains and still write in Rust.
  • Another suggested use: library authors shipping a C source distribution compiled from Rust so consumers don’t need a Rust toolchain.
  • Skeptics argue that if you want a C library you should just write C, and that debugging bugs in generated C will be painful.

C vs Rust: longevity, ABIs, and “zombie languages”

  • Broad agreement that the C ABI and C APIs (POSIX, SysV ABI, etc.) will be around for a very long time, even if C-as-a-language eventually declines.
  • Some expect C to outlive Rust; others say both will “live forever” in practice and can coexist, as in the Linux kernel.
  • Several compare C’s likely future to COBOL or Latin: widely used as an interface and for legacy, but not necessarily something people enjoy writing.
  • Counterpoint: some plan to keep writing new C for decades and genuinely prefer it.

Language tradeoffs and future evolution

  • Pro‑C arguments: simplicity, fast builds, stability, portability, small curated dependencies. Rust is seen by some as too complex, slow to compile, monomorphization-heavy, static-linking‑oriented, and “not pragmatic enough.”
  • Pro‑Rust arguments center on memory safety; critics of C point to unsafe strings and “just don’t make mistakes” memory management.
  • There’s a thought experiment about a language 10× better than Rust; some would gladly switch, others worry about churn, but consensus is that languages are allowed to die if better ones appear.
  • Alternative contenders mentioned: Zig, Jai (with skepticism about lack of public implementation), and Ada 95 (one commenter’s “10× better than Rust”).

Embedded, backends, and LLVM vs C

  • Some are surprised by choosing Rust→C instead of writing an LLVM backend for each target; others respond that:
    • Many vendors ship custom C compilers derived from old GCC; modifying those is cheaper than writing LLVM backends.
    • Writing LLVM backends is considered hard, poorly documented, and time‑consuming; a C backend “covers” many targets at once.

Cryptography and correctness worries

  • The article’s crypto example is criticized: constant‑time crypto is already hard in high-level languages; piping through two optimizing compilers adds risk.
  • One comment claims it’s impossible to fully guarantee timing behavior with current mainstream optimizing backends (LLVM/GCC), regardless of source language.

Tooling and ecosystem notes

  • Brief Nix vs Cargo discussion: Cargo is great for Rust dependencies; Nix is still valued for system‑wide toolchains (e.g., Ansible) and as checked‑in environment documentation.
  • Minor points: Rust’s integer-overflow panics only by default in debug; discussion of Rust’s aliasing advantages vs C with restrict; and the fact that lifetimes are enforced before lowering to forms that map cleanly to C.

Using LLMs at Oxide

Overall Reaction to Oxide’s LLM Policy

  • Many see the RFD as measured and thoughtful: LLMs are encouraged but tightly bounded by values like responsibility, rigor, and trust.
  • Others find a tension: caveats are so strong that they question whether LLMs should touch anything near production, or note that a lot is left to “personal responsibility” without concrete rules.
  • Some also think it underplays public perception issues around “stolen training data.”

LLMs for Coding: Scope, Quality, and Ownership

  • Strong consensus that LLMs are useful for: boilerplate, simple refactors, tests, scaffolding, and pattern-matching tasks where correctness can be mechanically checked.
  • Several describe workflows: write a spec/plan first, have the LLM implement, then thoroughly self‑review before peer review. Step “careful line‑by‑line review” is often the most time‑consuming part.
  • Others prefer small-grain autocomplete over big diffs: keeps context and scope small, feels 20–30% faster overall without huge review burden.
  • Many stress “you must own the code”: LLM output is acceptable only if the human understands and stands behind every line.
  • Skeptics report LLMs failing badly on complex or cross‑language tasks and see “amazingly good at writing code” as overstated.

Impact on Juniors, Learning, and Craft

  • Debate over juniors: some worry LLMs will stunt deep understanding, creating developers who can’t debug or design; others compare this to earlier resistance to Google, IDEs, and autocomplete.
  • Concern that organizations now penalize “not using AI enough,” pushing juniors toward shallow, LLM-heavy workflows.
  • Broader craft vs pragmatism theme: some want meticulous, hand‑tooled code; others argue that for many projects, “getting it done” with messy internals is economically rational.

Use for Writing, Editing, and Reading

  • Oxide’s hard line against LLM‑written prose resonates with many: it’s seen as breaking a social contract of effort and authenticity; readers “would rather read the prompt.”
  • Counterpoint: for non‑fiction, writing is “data transmission,” and using tools to increase clarity is respectful of the reader; the process shouldn’t matter if the result is accurate and clear.
  • LLMs as editors get mixed reviews: they can improve structure and grammar but risk erasing voice or producing verbose, generic text.
  • Claims that LLMs are “superlative at reading comprehension” are disputed; people report hallucinated summaries and misleading “translations” of documents.

Trust, Detection, and Hiring

  • Oxide reports widespread LLM-authored application materials and uses LLMs themselves as aids in spotting such writing, especially when human reviewers are already suspicious.
  • Commenters question how reliable this is without measured false-positive/false-negative rates and worry about unfairly rejecting genuine writing.
  • Applicants share experiences of heavy writing effort, long delays, generic rejections, and uncertainty about whether they were misclassified as LLM-generated.

Legal, Ethical, and Policy Gaps

  • Some are surprised the RFD barely mentions copyright: risks of verbatim code reproduction, copyleft implications, and unsettled law around LLM-generated artifacts.
  • Others argue these concerns may be implicitly covered by the general “you are responsible for what you ship” stance, but agree this area is still unclear.

Trains cancelled over fake bridge collapse image

Role of AI in Detecting and Creating the Hoax

  • Many commenters criticize the BBC for using an AI chatbot to “analyze” whether the bridge photo was fake, calling this bad epistemology and likening it to divination.
  • LLMs are described as unreliable detectors of AI output; people share examples of teachers and professors wrongly using ChatGPT to “test” if work was AI-generated, and a lawyer who trusted ChatGPT’s fabricated citations.
  • Some see this case as emblematic of AI hype: one AI helps create the hoax, another is used pointlessly to “verify” it, with humans still doing the real work on the ground.

Rail Safety, Risk, and Whether This Is a “Non-Story”

  • Several argue this is routine: after an earthquake and any plausible report of damage, stopping trains and inspecting the line is exactly what a safety-first railway should do.
  • From this view, an AI image is functionally similar to a phone call reporting debris or damage: either way, you inspect.
  • Others push back that AI changes the scale: one person can now cheaply create endless, realistic hoaxes over vast infrastructure, driving up verification costs.
  • Debate over inspections: some favor manned patrols with instruments; others point to automation (sensors, cameras, fiber-based systems) but note coverage is incomplete and expensive.

Disinformation, Attack Vectors, and Trust

  • Commenters link this to broader information warfare: AI-generated disinformation is already seen as a tool for state and non-state actors, with historical (non-AI) hoaxes as precedent.
  • There is concern that cheap fake images/videos will:
    • Trigger costly responses (like this incident) at scale.
    • Fuel outrage and possibly violence based on fabricated events.
    • Further erode already fragile public trust in media and institutions.
  • Others argue hoaxes and bomb threats long predate AI; what’s new is volume and plausibly deniable “art” rather than direct threats.

Verification, Provenance, and Technical Fixes

  • Multiple comments focus on the cost asymmetry: fabricating is nearly free; verifying is slow and laborious (Brandolini’s law).
  • Proposals include:
    • Cryptographic signing/QR or provenance metadata for camera images, potentially chained through news organizations.
    • Continuous or targeted CCTV for critical infrastructure.
  • Skeptics note the “analog hole” (re-photographing screens) and that signatures only prove origin, not truth; false trust in such systems could backfire.

Broader AI and Societal Impact

  • Some see this as one example in a growing list: job losses, automated translation/SEO, scams, deepfakes, and infrastructure disruption with limited tangible upside for ordinary people.
  • Others suggest society will adapt: more skepticism, renewed value for trusted/local journalism, and perhaps a cultural shift back toward in-person experiences.
  • There is recurring tension between viewing AI as just another tool amplifying old problems vs. a step-change in the scale and intensity of those problems.

Kilauea erupts, destroying webcam [video]

Eruption physics and visuals

  • Viewers are struck by the high, arcing lava fountains and the pressures involved.
  • There’s brief debate over what “drives” the eruption: overall lithostatic pressure vs. gas coming out of solution as magma rises and pressure drops.
  • Some note how hard it is to perceive scale in such footage and jokingly suggest adding virtual houses/cars for reference.

Visiting Kīlauea and other volcanoes

  • Multiple people praise Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park and the Big Island in general: huge climate diversity, easy driving distances, and otherworldly landscapes.
  • Mauna Kea and Haleakalā get special mention for stargazing and crater hikes.
  • Several anecdotes describe walking on still-warm flows, shoes melting, and getting close to ocean entries—later recognized as seriously dangerous due to shelf collapse and toxic “laze”.

Risk, adventure, and rescuers

  • One story of ignoring park closing hours to approach active lava sparks a debate.
  • Some frame it as acceptable personal risk-taking; others emphasize that such choices also endanger rescuers.
  • Counterpoint: rescuers voluntarily choose hazardous work, but critics respond that this doesn’t justify unnecessary risk.

Aircraft and ash hazards

  • People discuss the aviation alert level and stress that volcanic ash can severely damage jets hundreds of kilometers away.
  • Past incidents (e.g., ash-related engine failures, European airspace closures) are cited; prevailing wind direction is highlighted as critical.

Webcam destruction and failure mode

  • Many enjoyed watching the webcam’s “final moments” and note the USGS maintains multiple cameras.
  • A technical analysis suggests the purple frames near the end come from intense infrared light and sensor overload, followed by lens displacement and eventual cable/electronics failure.

Volcano types and catastrophic events

  • Discussion contrasts “friendly” Hawaiian shield volcanism (low-viscosity basalt, relatively low gas content) with explosive stratovolcanoes like Vesuvius or Mt. St. Helens.
  • Pompeii’s fate via pyroclastic flows is contrasted with Kīlauea’s more effusive style.
  • Some indulge in dark speculation about future supervolcanoes, geomagnetic reversal, or other cosmic disasters.

Media, AI, and fakery

  • The narration is confirmed as synthesized text-to-speech; some were fooled, others argue TTS is old tech and not inherently noteworthy.
  • A separate thread dissects an obviously fake Google Maps lava photo and a high-volume contributor account, with speculation about spam and fraudulent review seeding; both image and account later disappear.

Screenshots from developers: 2002 vs. 2015 (2015)

Persistence of terminals & tiling WMs

  • Many note how similar 2002 and 2015 setups are: terminals, editors, minimal chrome, often with tiling or sparse WMs.
  • Several say their own desktops have barely changed in decades: Emacs or Vim full-screen, a browser on another workspace, or simple WMs like fvwm, xmonad, awesome, Sway, IceWM, etc.
  • The appeal: screens dominated by code, no permanent sidebars/menus, keyboard-driven workflows, and environments that survive across jobs, OSes, and decades.

Terminal editors vs GUI IDEs

  • One side finds terminal editors (Vim, Kakoune, etc.) painful and prefers Sublime/VS Code-style GUIs that “just work” with zero config.
  • The other side argues the opposite: once modal keybindings are learned, GUIs feel slow and awkward. Benefits cited:
    • Tight shell integration and easy piping of buffers to tools.
    • High keyboard-only efficiency and reduced cognitive load.
    • Extremely cheap/extensible scripting vs complex plugin systems in VS Code.
  • Some question whether editing speed really matters vs “thinking the code,” while others respond that ergonomics, continuity, and avoiding tool churn matter as much as raw speed.

RMS, screenshots, and dogmatism

  • Much discussion revolves around RMS saying he didn’t know how to take a screenshot for the 2002 article and his practice of “browsing” via email+wget.
  • Reactions range from admiration (“pure-hearted dogmatism,” privacy, resisting the modern web) to irritation (seeing it as contrarian signaling or disdain).
  • Some defend him technically: in non-framebuffer text mode there’s no graphics buffer to “screenshot” in the usual sense. Others say tools exist and he was really just emphasizing his text-only setup.
  • Multiple anecdotes describe him as intensely focused on free software, often socially awkward or brusque in person but more constructive over email. Debate ensues over autism, boundaries, politeness, and whether such a figure still helps or harms the free software movement.

Geniuses and basic computer skills

  • People draw parallels to other famous developers who allegedly struggle with everyday tasks (installing distros, spreadsheets, desktop UIs).
  • Counterpoints: some of these figures actually have carefully tuned but minimalist setups; deep system or algorithmic expertise doesn’t imply or require broad “power user” skills.
  • Several admit they are highly capable in abstract CS or low-level work yet inept with common GUI apps or consumer workflows.

Desktops, distros, and aesthetics

  • Linus Torvalds’ current use of Fedora + GNOME is discussed: chosen for stability, ease of custom kernel builds, minimal fuss. Fedora’s GNOME focus and KDE’s status within Fedora are clarified.
  • A number of comments praise old macOS/OS X Aqua-era UI as the peak of desktop aesthetics, with specific nostalgia for Snow Leopard, and note that many 2015 screenshots still showed that style.
  • Some lament that “nothing has fundamentally changed” in code development: still terminals, editors, and a WM, just on larger monitors.

Customization vs focus and productivity

  • Screenshots from famous developers are described as “boring,” which many interpret as a marker of focus: computers as tools, not art projects.
  • There’s skeptical commentary about heavily “riced” /r/unixporn-style setups, suggesting time spent perfecting themes could correlate with doing less actual work; others push back, arguing that deep customization still indicates real competence.
  • Several note that chat, music, and busy desktops can be major distractions; a quiet, minimal workspace is seen as more conducive to deep work.

Time, nostalgia, and perception

  • Some are surprised 2002 is now seen as “ancient,” while others mention being born that year and only recently graduating.
  • Several reflect on how time feels compressed with age: yearly cycles (like Christmas) feel closer together, even as decades of computing UI evolution stack up.

Misc technical & historical notes

  • Technical side threads cover:
    • How to capture text consoles (script, ttyrec, conspy) vs framebuffer screenshots.
    • FVWM’s FvwmPager as the “virtual desktop minimap” seen in old screenshots.
    • Font-spotting for a Vim screenshot (Liberation Mono is suggested).
    • An anecdote about running Half-Life 2 smoothly on an ARM Linux handheld in 2025 with a very old-school TWM + Emacs + IRC setup.

The past was not that cute

Historical Labor and Gender

  • Several comments stress that “stay-at-home” women in the past almost always worked: running large households, feeding many children and farm workers, hauling water, doing heavy laundry, preserving food, and often working fields as well.
  • Historical anecdotes and scholarship are cited to show that intense exercise for women was discouraged in elite discourse while poor women routinely did heavy physical labor.

Material Culture, “Authenticity,” and Consumerism

  • Some nostalgically praise older materials (solid wood, metal, analog controls) as more “honest” and communal, contrasting them with cheap composites and disposable goods.
  • Others counter that high-quality items were historically extremely expensive; most people owned few clothes or furnishings and often wore feed-sack garments or margarine instead of butter.
  • Multiple commenters note that imitations and “fake” goods (veneer, plastics, snake oil, scams) are centuries old; survivorship bias makes only the well-made past objects visible today.
  • Several defend modern synthetics and manufacturing as extraordinarily effective, comfortable, and affordable, even if durability is often intentionally compromised.

Nostalgia, Memory, and Romanticizing the Past

  • Many argue that the sense that the past was “more real” comes from selective memory, survivorship bias, and cultural myths (golden age thinking, pastoral fantasies).
  • Others insist some changes are objectively large: commercialization, rapid technological shifts, and digital “fakeness” in daily life.
  • There is back-and-forth over whether present life is uniquely alienating or simply another turn in a long history of people complaining about moral and social decline.

Rural, Agrarian, and Hunter‑Gatherer Life

  • First-hand family stories of prairie dugouts, field work, and pre-modern farm life underline cold, hunger, endless chores, and child loss, while still conceding some community and meaning.
  • Debate over hunter-gatherers vs. peasants: some claim foragers had more leisure and better health; others cite newer anthropology suggesting high hunger, malnutrition, and significant workloads once all tasks are counted.
  • A recurring theme: most humans historically were peasants in agrarian systems; idyllic “cottage” images usually reflect a tiny privileged minority.

Health, Mortality, and Progress

  • Child mortality and infectious disease are used as the clearest evidence that the past was harsh: large fractions of children died before adulthood, and simple infections or childbirth were often fatal.
  • Commenters emphasize the transformative impact of industrialization, vaccines, antibiotics, and the Green Revolution, even while acknowledging environmental and psychological downsides of modernity.

Media, Class Myths, and Cottagecore

  • Cottagecore and similar aesthetics are framed as selective, highly produced fantasies, akin to long-standing bucolic art and anime Europe-as-fantasy.
  • Several argue that popular media and historical storytelling systematically foreground elites and “kings,” encouraging people to misidentify with past oppressors rather than typical peasants or slaves.

Coffee linked to slower biological ageing among those with severe mental illness

Study validity and causality

  • Many commenters stress correlation vs causation: coffee drinkers might simply differ in wealth, race, stress, or overall lifestyle.
  • Some note the paper’s controls seem limited; no clear mechanism is demonstrated, so the observed association could be driven by unmeasured factors (e.g., people who feel better are more likely to drink coffee).
  • Several point to the broader problem of nutritional epidemiology: small effects, many variables, p‑hacking, and “citation farming.” Ioannidis’ critique of exaggerated diet–longevity claims is cited.
  • Calls are made for randomized controlled trials; skepticism that impressive observational findings would survive them.

Scope of the effect (severe mental illness vs general population)

  • One thread asks if the effect is specific to people with severe mental illness, noting another study where instant coffee correlated with worse outcomes.
  • A reply claims coffee benefits “everyone” but has a larger impact in groups with already shortened lifespan; others find this uncertain.
  • Some suggest schizophrenia/SMI patients may be self‑medicating with caffeine (similar to nicotine), but causality could run either way.

Mechanisms and biology

  • Speculation includes: MAO inhibitors and other bioactive compounds in coffee, antioxidants, appetite suppression, and reduced caloric intake.
  • Debate over whether caffeine itself is key or whether non‑caffeine compounds in brewed coffee matter more.
  • Question raised whether other stimulants (ADHD meds, nicotine) would show similar aging effects.

Health effects, risks, and dependence

  • Several describe clear subjective benefits for mood and severe mental illness; for some, coffee is “like medicine.”
  • Others report anxiety, jitters, migraines, or hypertension exacerbation; one cites evidence that heavy coffee intake is dangerous in severe hypertension.
  • Disagreement over whether strong reliance on coffee is “addiction” vs non‑harmful dependence; withdrawal headaches and cycles of quitting are described.
  • Some recommend tea as a gentler alternative.

Anecdotes, taste changes, and tolerance

  • Multiple stories of shifting from sugary drinks to black coffee and more “bland” whole foods with age.
  • Others report increasing GI intolerance with age; suggestions include darker roasts, milk, baking soda, small‑batch/fresh beans, and avoiding mass‑produced coffee.

Coffee culture, cost, and social factors

  • Coffee shop social interaction is floated as a possible confounder (barista relationships, workplace coffee breaks).
  • Discussion of rising coffee prices, raw bean shortages, and differences between instant, robusta, and arabica.

CATL expects oceanic electric ships in three years

Solar and Onboard Generation Limits

  • Multiple comments calculate that even fully covering a large ship (∼20,000 m² deck) in PV yields only 1–2 MW average, vs ~40–60 MW required for propulsion.
  • Even with “perfect” panels, solar would cover only single‑digit percent of propulsion needs; deck space is mostly occupied by cargo anyway.
  • Wave and “regenerative propeller” ideas are largely dismissed as negligible for propulsion-scale energy.

Wind, Sails, and Hybrid Concepts

  • Wind (modern sails, kites, vertical turbines) is seen as genuinely promising, especially combined with batteries.
  • Some think we may see a partial return to sail, at least as hybrid assistance, although scaling to large container ships has serious engineering challenges.

Battery Density, Range, and Feasibility

  • Core debate: diesel’s vastly higher energy density vs quickly improving batteries.
  • Several “back-of-the-envelope” calculations suggest that for a ~14,000 TEU ship with ~5,000 km range, battery mass and volume could be within ~2x current bunker fuel capacity, costing perhaps tens of millions of dollars.
  • Others argue this underestimates real energy needs for full transoceanic legs (20–40 GWh), making batteries orders of magnitude off in both cost and practicality for long-haul.

Ports, Charging, and Containerized Batteries

  • Charging a multi‑GWh pack in 1–2 days implies ~100 MW+ port connections; compared to smelters and major ports, this is big but not inconceivable.
  • Proposals: large port battery banks as buffers; standardized container-sized battery modules swapped during normal cargo handling.
  • Critics note infrastructure takes decades, needs standardization, and would initially be limited to a few major ports.

Energy Shipping & Floating Infrastructure

  • Some envision “battery tankers” or ships whose cargo is energy (Sahara or offshore wind → charge in desert/ocean → discharge near cities).
  • Others sketch floating wind/battery stations along shipping lanes; feasibility is unclear and would still require heavy regulation.

Nuclear and Other Alternatives

  • Nuclear-powered ships (icebreakers, subs, SMR concepts) are cited as proof of energy density, but seen as uneconomic, politically fraught, and high-crew-cost for commercial shipping.
  • Hybrid diesel-electric with batteries for coastal legs and emission-control areas is viewed as the most realistic near-term path.

Risk, Materials, and Outlook

  • Fire risk of large lithium packs sparks debate; sodium-ion is mentioned as safer but less energy-dense.
  • Consensus: batteries are clearly viable for ferries, tugs, and coastal/medium-range “oceanic” routes in Asia; true transoceanic battery-only cargo ships by 2028 is widely seen as optimistic to implausible.

Germany votes to bring in voluntary military service programme for 18-year-olds

Scope and nature of the “voluntary” scheme

  • Commenters highlight the gap between the “voluntary” label and the text:
    • Men must return a questionnaire; women may ignore it.
    • From 2027, all men must undergo a medical exam assessing fitness for possible service.
    • Multiple legal mechanisms would allow conscription to be (re)activated if volunteers are insufficient.
  • Several compare this to the US Selective Service: registration is compulsory, actual service only “voluntary” until the state decides otherwise.
  • Others stress conscription was never abolished, only suspended in 2011, so this is more a reactivation path than a new regime.

Gender, equality, and the constitution

  • Strong criticism that the questionnaire and potential draft target only men, seen as sexist or “patriarchal” in practice.
  • Defenders note the German constitution currently limits conscription to men; including women would require a constitutional amendment that this government cannot pass.
  • Debates about whether sex-based roles are justified (physical strength, “disposable” male fertility) vs pure discrimination.
  • Questions raised about how trans people would be treated; several argue basing it on biological sex is the only administrable rule.

Historical memory and anti‑militarism

  • Older German experiences with conscription and harsh treatment of conscientious objectors are cited as shaping a deep societal aversion to the military.
  • Participation in Yugoslavia and Afghanistan, after promises of a purely defensive army, further radicalized younger generations against the Bundeswehr.
  • Some warn that German history (WWI/WWII, eastern land wars) makes any remilitarization especially fraught, even if rarely discussed explicitly.

Security rationale vs remilitarization fears

  • One camp sees the move as a rational reaction to Russia’s aggression and an increasingly unreliable US/NATO shield; Europe must relearn self‑defence.
  • Another camp argues Russia is overstretched in Ukraine and EU states collectively outmatch it; they suspect a broader militarization agenda and new “poverty draft” dynamics.
  • A minority advocates instead for a stronger nuclear deterrent and underground shelters rather than mass conscription.

Generational and socioeconomic tensions

  • Many younger‑leaning commenters resent being asked to serve after policies that favored retirees (pensions) and raised taxes while cutting services.
  • Some see conscription as a way to staff an army with economically insecure youths, particularly from poorer eastern regions.
  • Others counter that universal service—paired with robust conscientious objection and alternative civilian service—can promote social cohesion and avoid class‑biased armies.

OMSCS Open Courseware

Workload, Time Management, and Family Life

  • Many posters with jobs and kids say OMSCS is doable only at 1 course/semester, and even then it consumes most free time.
  • Typical reported loads range from ~8–10 hours/week for easier classes to 25–30+ hours for harder ones (Graduate Algorithms, ML, some systems courses).
  • Some projects, especially in Distributed Computing (Paxos + sharded KV store), were described as 60–80‑hour slogs, with lost sleep and sacrificed weekends.
  • Several people finished with young kids thanks to remote work and supportive partners, but multiple commenters said they wouldn’t do it again due to the health and lifestyle impact.

What You Get Beyond Open Courseware

  • Repeated emphasis that the main value is not lectures but:
    • challenging assignments and auto‑grading,
    • TA feedback on code and written reports,
    • peer review,
    • deadlines and exams as a forcing function,
    • community via Ed/Discord/Slack,
    • access to libraries and software.
  • Open courseware is seen as a useful “try before you buy,” but some note other universities publish more complete open materials (with assignments and labs) if you don’t care about credit.

Program Quality and Specific Courses

  • Overall program is widely described as rigorous, with a low completion rate despite a relatively high acceptance rate.
  • Some courses are called out as excellent: Graduate Algorithms, Advanced OS, HPC, ML, Video Game Design, GIOS, DSI (database implementation).
  • The legacy database course is criticized as too shallow; the new implementation-focused DB course is defended as significantly more rigorous and aligned with on‑campus content.

Degree Value and LLM Era Debate

  • One line of argument: online degrees are losing signaling value in a world of LLM‑assisted coding; a motivated person could self‑study with a textbook and an LLM.
  • Counterarguments:
    • OMSCS diploma is identical to the in‑person MSCS and is respected in industry.
    • Exams are hard enough that “winging it with LLMs” on assignments won’t get you through.
    • Several posters report substantial career boosts (e.g., moving into ML roles at top companies).

Admissions and Practicalities

  • Letters of recommendation are generally seen as a formality; professional references from managers are common.
  • GRE often not required; CS undergrad with decent grades tends to make admission straightforward.
  • Tools like OMSHub/OMScentral help with course selection; scripts with ffmpeg help merge the many 2‑minute lecture clips.
  • Question about truly self‑paced or doubled-speed completion remains unanswered/unclear.

Perl's decline was cultural

Perl’s Stability and “Just Works” Appeal

  • Several commenters praise Perl 5’s extreme backward compatibility: use v5.xx lets old and new code coexist in one interpreter with few breaking changes.
  • This makes Perl attractive for system scripts and long‑lived tooling: it’s on almost every Unix box, needs no venv/containers, and old scripts often “just keep running”.
  • In contrast, Python is criticized for its packaging/venv norms and stdlib deprecations; others push back, saying interpreter‑level breakage since 3.x is rare and well signaled.

Comparisons with Python, Ruby, PHP, and Java

  • Many describe moving from Perl to Python for clearer syntax, easier learning, “batteries‑included” stdlib, and a more welcoming culture.
  • Ruby is seen as “Perl with nicer OO” and better web tooling (Rails); PHP as the thing that actually captured the web because mod_php was simple to deploy and syntax more approachable.
  • Java (plus corporate backing) also siphoned mindshare in the early 2000s with a full story for GUIs, web, and enterprise.

Culture, Elitism, and Onboarding

  • Thread strongly agrees that BOFH/RTFM, “wizards/monks”, and code‑golf one‑upmanship made Perl off‑putting to newcomers.
  • Some defend this as playful, documenting‑driven, and no worse than other 90s communities; others recount very real hostility on IRC/mailing lists that pushed them away.
  • Python’s culture is repeatedly characterized as more patient, beginner‑friendly, and “normal”, which mattered as the industry broadened beyond sysadmins and hobbyists.

Language Design: Power vs Maintainability

  • Admiration for Perl’s expressiveness in text and Unix glue: regex integration, subprocess syntax, contextual shortcuts, and TIMTOWTDI.
  • The same features are blamed for “write‑only” code: sigils ($ @ %), scalar vs list context, magic globals ($_, etc.), references and OO bolted on late, and encouragement of dense one‑liners.
  • Consensus: great for quick scripts and one‑offs; painful for large, long‑lived, multi‑author codebases.

Perl 6/Raku and the Decline

  • Many see the long, turbulent Perl 6/Raku effort as freezing Perl 5 evolution and eroding community confidence; “the wall Perl 5 would never move beyond”.
  • Others argue Perl was already losing to Java, PHP, and Python before Perl 6, mainly due to lack of a clear web story, Windows/GUI support, and business backing.

Current View

  • Perl is widely acknowledged as historically significant and still valued for niche scripting and build tooling.
  • But for new projects and new programmers, most commenters see friendlier ecosystems and cleaner languages elsewhere.

Ireland's Inability to Defend Itself

Perceived Threats and “Defend Itself from What?”

  • Some argue Ireland faces real modern threats: drones, Russian ships near undersea cables, airspace incursions, and potential attacks on data cables and pipelines.
  • Others see a full-scale invasion (e.g., by Russia) as fantastical, suggesting that in such a scenario Ireland’s own military would be irrelevant and capitulation might minimize damage.
  • A minority stresses non‑kinetic threats (election and social‑media interference) as more pressing.

Neutrality, Reliance on Others, and “Free-Riding”

  • A strong line of criticism: Ireland effectively relies on UK and broader NATO capabilities while proclaiming neutrality, likened to a U.S. state refusing to fund federal defense.
  • Some label this hypocrisy: expecting others to defend Ireland while refusing to commit to mutual defense if other European states are attacked.
  • Others counter that Ireland has a principled pacifist tradition and that small states rationally prioritize social spending over building unwinnable militaries.

Irish Military Capability and Peacekeeping

  • Ireland is described as having very limited conventional capabilities (no jets, no tanks) and being unable to resist a serious invasion or properly police airspace and maritime borders.
  • Supporters note its longstanding UN peacekeeping role (including Lebanon, Kosovo, Jadotville) and argue this is “doing good in the world.”
  • Critics say these missions range from ineffective to counterproductive, citing failures to constrain Hezbollah and broader UN structural issues.

History, Morality, and Colonial Context

  • Ireland’s WWII neutrality provokes debate: some deride it as “standing aside” from the fight against Nazism; others note many Irish volunteered to fight via the UK and were later punished or blacklisted at home.
  • Irish historical experience of British rule and solidarity with anti‑colonial movements (Native Americans, Palestinians, Hezbollah/Lebanon) is invoked to justify a deep suspicion of great‑power militarism.

Russia, Ukraine, and Irish “Big Mouth” Critique

  • One camp argues that states without real military power should be cautious in loudly criticizing others’ foreign policy, citing Irish politicians opposed to arming Ukraine.
  • Another camp rejects the idea that military strength is a prerequisite for having strong moral or political opinions.

Economics and Strategic Value

  • Some note Ireland’s wealth and corporate‑tax model, accusing it of “free‑riding” both on allies’ defense spending and on EU tax bases.
  • A few wryly say Ireland is so useful as a tax haven that others are effectively incentivized to protect it.

4 billion if statements (2023)

Overall tone and reaction

  • Thread treats the article as deliberate satire; people find the “4B if statements” and “amazingly performant” line hilarious.
  • Many enjoy it as exactly the kind of pointless-yet-educational diversion they want during a break.
  • Several note it will probably end up in LLM training sets, which makes the whole thing even funnier.

Alternative “solutions” to odd/even

  • Multiple minimal fixes or “slightly better” versions of the original C program: checking just the last decimal digit, using d & 1, or simple case/switch tables.
  • Wide range of tongue‑in‑cheek overengineering:
    • Huge lookup tables, Bloom filters with two filters (odd/even) plus special-casing collisions, or precomputed SQL/SQLite tables.
    • Binary search over if-chains, tree structures, databases, map‑reduce, and microservices with billions of tiny services or pods.
    • ASIC/FPGA analogies and custom silicon suggestions.
  • Some genuine micro‑optimizations appear (bit-twiddling, toggling flags, unrolled loops) but always framed humorously.

Language, ecosystem, and tooling jokes

  • Jokes about using Bash, C#, Rust, JavaScript with npm install is-odd, and enormous .NET executables.
  • Discussion around “C is the fastest language” points out that performance mostly comes from compilers and language semantics; C/Python comparison is recognized as part of the joke.
  • Comparisons to real-world “codegen gone wild” stories (autogenerated conversion files, tries/ROMs, etc.).

Compilers, execution, and performance details

  • Some expected compilers to optimize the gigantic if-chain down to a few instructions; others note optimizations were explicitly disabled.
  • One experiment with GCC on a smaller (16-bit) version: -O0 compiles instantly, -O1 in ~10 minutes, -O2 in hours, with only modest size differences and no magical collapse.
  • Explanation for runtime vs SSD throughput: OS page cache and RAM mean most of the huge binary is resident in memory after the first run.
  • Branch prediction is mentioned but dismissed as irrelevant to IO-bound loading of the massive executable.

Meta and takeaways

  • Several comments emphasize that this kind of “stupid hack” is a fun way to learn about compilers, code generation, and memory mapping.
  • Others see it as a parody of modern software bloat (npm packages, microservices, config-over-logic, AI hype), while still appreciating the genuine technical details.

HTML as an Accessible Format for Papers (2023)

Status of arXiv HTML and “experimental” label

  • Commenters note HTML versions have existed for years; the linked page is from 2023 and some think the “experimental” label is overstaying its welcome.
  • Coverage is incomplete, especially for older papers; some users wish for a “try HTML anyway” button.
  • ar5iv is highlighted as an unofficial mirror using similar tech with a one‑month lag, plus the defunct arxiv‑vanity as a predecessor.
  • An arXiv HTML developer explains the main bottleneck is developer time and asks users to report rendering issues via GitHub; LaTeXML is the core converter.

Technical and authoring challenges (TeX → HTML)

  • 90% of submissions are TeX/LaTeX; converting a Turing-complete macro language to robust HTML at scale is described as uniquely hard.
  • Users report frequent layout issues in HTML (figure sizing, column widths) and more consistent layout in PDFs.
  • Some authors say HTML conversion forces them to add fallback macros and increases their workload; local simulation of arXiv’s pipeline is difficult, though a Docker image exists.
  • LaTeXML’s approach (TeX → semantic XML → HTML via XSLT) is mentioned; documentation is seen as a barrier to contributors.

Accessibility and reading experience: HTML vs PDF vs EPUB

  • Strong support for HTML on accessibility grounds: better with screen readers, easier text extraction, and integration with browser extensions (translation, notes, LLM tools).
  • Others defend PDF for high‑fidelity print and “author’s intended layout,” especially when seriously studying papers. Some note a generational split: print vs multi‑monitor/tablet reading.
  • HTML is praised as inherently more accessible than PDF, but only if semantic tags (figure/figcaption, headings, citations) are used instead of “a sea of divs.”
  • EPUB is suggested as ideal for e‑readers; it’s essentially packaged HTML but lacks strong, portable annotation tooling.

What should be the canonical format?

  • One camp argues HTML is sufficient as a structural format (semantic HTML + CSS), and “perfect is the enemy of good.”
  • Another wants a pure structural format (abstract, authors, sections, equations) separate from any rendering, with HTML/PDF as views. XML+XSLT or custom HTML elements are proposed.
  • Markdown is proposed and dismissed as less machine‑readable than HTML and weak for complex figures/tables.
  • Several say nobody wants to author directly in HTML; the real need is a single high-level markup that targets both PDF and HTML (Typst is cited as a promising but immature example).

Machine-readability, LLMs, and future directions

  • Some speculate HTML support is partly motivated by feeding papers into LLMs; others reply modern models already handle PDFs well.
  • One view: as multimodal LLMs improve, file format will matter less because models can “visually understand” PDFs/PNGs and re-express them as summaries, databases, or audiobooks.
  • Others consider this dystopian if LLMs become the primary “front end” to research, given hallucinations and subtlety loss. A medical-data anecdote stresses the need for guaranteed correctness, arguing better native formats (not PDFs) still matter.

Math, Unicode, and TeX in browsers (tangents)

  • Some wish Unicode and modern font tech had been extended for richer math so plain text could replace TeX+PDF; others argue math layout (fractions, scalable parentheses) is fundamentally beyond Unicode’s scope and better handled by MathML/TeX.
  • Suggestions to render TeX directly in browsers or via SVG are critiqued as losing semantic structure, undermining accessibility goals.

Incentives and conservatism in publishing

  • Multiple comments note that authors mainly follow journal templates; entrenched LaTeX/PDF workflows and expectations (two-column layouts, traditional appearance) slow adoption of more accessible, responsive formats.

Tiny Core Linux: a 23 MB Linux distro with graphical desktop

UI and UX Design

  • Several commenters criticize the desktop’s visual polish: inconsistent spacing, uneven button sizes, and awkward margins that make it look “off” or amateurish despite otherwise appealing simplicity.
  • Others defend high information density and visible borders, pushing back against “modern” UIs with huge whitespace and low density.
  • A middle position emerges: retro/90s-style is fine, but Tiny Core’s GUI lacks the fit-and-finish of classic systems like Mac OS 7–9, Windows 95, OS/2, or BeOS.
  • There’s frustration that open source projects often don’t “empower” designers; aesthetic PRs may be undervalued even though they’d be quick wins.

Security, HTTPS, and Integrity

  • Strong criticism that the main site is HTTP-only and ships ISOs and hashes over insecure channels, making MITM trivial.
  • Some note a HTTPS ibiblio mirror, but point out that if links to it come from HTTP, that’s still weak.
  • Debate over hashes served from the same insecure location:
    • One side: useful only for corruption detection, not security; can even be harmful if people trust them.
    • Other side: still “better than nothing” and helpful for post-incident analysis.
  • Consensus from security-minded participants: proper GPG signatures plus keys or hashes distributed via HTTPS or another out-of-band channel are the modern baseline.

Use Cases and Target Hardware

  • Popular for reviving old or 32‑bit machines (Pentium III, 486, old ThinkPads, netbooks) and for extremely low-resource scenarios.
  • Widely used as a rescue/live system: partition repair, password resets, file recovery from broken Windows installs, CNC controller hosts, and dedicated appliances (e.g., Pico‑8 boxes, writer decks, audio production).
  • piCore (Raspberry Pi version) and Alpine-on-Pi are highlighted for RAM-boot setups that almost eliminate SD card wear, ideal for long-lived “cron slave” or small server roles.

Comparisons and Alternatives

  • Frequent comparisons to Damn Small Linux (including its recent revival), Puppy, Slax, SliTaz, Alpine, QNX demo disk, MicroLinux, xwoaf, NetBSD/SmolBSD, Haiku, and FreeDOS.
  • Many reminisce about fully functional GUIs on machines with a few megabytes of RAM; Tiny Core is seen as continuing that lineage.

Architecture and Features

  • Key design points called out: runs from RAM, tarball-based packages mounted via FUSE, can also run in a “mount mode” from disk, and dCore variant reuses Debian’s large package ecosystem.
  • Praised as an example of how far you can get by aggressively optimizing for size and simplicity, though some see signs of an aging/“good enough” project (old-style site, no HTTPS, sparse polish).

GrapheneOS is the only Android OS providing full security patches

How GrapheneOS gets patches and why it’s unique

  • GrapheneOS now has an OEM partner that gives it early access to Android’s embargoed patches.
  • These fixes are shipped in a special “security preview” channel as binaries before source is published; after embargo ends, builds are reproducible from source.
  • Commenters note this means, practically, only stock Pixels and GrapheneOS preview builds have fully patched Android during the embargo window.
  • Some worry that binary‑only early patches enable diffing to discover still‑0day bugs on other Android devices; others point out the same is already true for Google’s own updates.

How secure is “standard” Android vs GrapheneOS?

  • One side calls mainstream Android “surreally unsafe,” especially on devices stuck on old versions with no patches.
  • Others counter that, given the number of OEMs and constraints, Android is impressively secure, and Google now offers long support (up to 7 years on newer Pixels).
  • GrapheneOS is described as a hardening layer on top of Pixels’ already-strong hardware security, aiming at defense in depth and resistance to 0‑day and forensic tools (Cellebrite leaks are repeatedly cited).
  • Several people stress that “security” is meaningless without a threat model: against random malware, many options suffice; against governments or forensic labs, GrapheneOS on a Pixel is seen as top-tier.

OEM partnership and hardware choices

  • The new OEM partnership ends Pixel exclusivity; speculation ranges over mid‑tier Android brands, with Fairphone considered unlikely.
  • Many praise focusing on a small set of well‑supported devices as key to quality and timely patches.
  • Others dislike being tied to Pixel‑class phones and want to choose hardware and OS independently; lack of Pixels in some countries is also a barrier.

Alternatives, duopoly, and app lock‑in

  • Linux phones (Librem 5, PinePhone, Sailfish, FuriLabs, Jolla) are discussed as duopoly escapes, but are widely seen as immature, power‑hungry, and weak on hard security.
  • The real blocker is apps: banking, ID, and payment apps depend on Android/iOS and often on Google’s attestation, making alternative OSes or VMs hard to use in practice.
  • Several argue that reliable Android app emulation (like Proton for games) plus hardware openness would be the only realistic path out of the Apple/Google duopoly.

GrapheneOS vs LineageOS and other ROMs

  • LineageOS is praised for keeping abandoned devices usable, but acknowledged as weaker on security: often missing verified boot, hardware-backed protections, and timely patches.
  • GrapheneOS is positioned as: if you have a compatible Pixel and care most about security/privacy, it’s the top choice; if you have other hardware or prioritize flexibility, LineageOS (or stock with updates) is more realistic.
  • Rooting is noted as fundamentally breaking Android’s security model, regardless of ROM; GrapheneOS discourages it.

Why phones are locked down, unlike PCs

  • Multiple comments trace the difference to incentives and regulation:
    • Phones are RF devices under strict FCC‑style rules; vendors must tightly control radio firmware and software updates.
    • Companies now treat OSes and ecosystems (stores, telemetry, lock‑in) as profit centers, unlike early PC vendors who mainly sold hardware.
    • Legal tools (DMCA anti‑circumvention, CFAA risk) and hardware attestation make “IBM‑compatible‑style” open clones much harder.
  • Others argue there’s no technical mandate for this level of lock‑down, pointing out that PCs with Wi‑Fi and modems remain open; they frame hardware attestation and closed test suites as business/antitrust issues, not necessities.

Community behavior and project politics

  • Several participants complain about a “combative” tone from some GrapheneOS figures toward competing projects (/e/, iodé, F‑Droid, Linux phones), calling it off‑putting.
  • In response, defenders say they are reacting to years of misinformation, libel, and personal harassment, and that their critiques are technical and evidence-based.
  • There is clear tension: some see the pushback as necessary correction of misleading “privacy ROM” marketing; others see it as drama that risks overshadowing the technical work.

How I discovered a hidden microphone on a Chinese NanoKVM

Hardware Design & “Hidden” Microphone

  • Many point out the NanoKVM is built on the LicheeRV Nano dev board, whose spec sheet clearly lists a microphone.
  • Explanation offered: they reused an off‑the‑shelf SBC to keep costs down, inheriting display/touch/mic/amp circuitry not needed for a KVM.
  • Vendor docs now say newer firmware removes mic drivers and future hardware will omit the component.
  • Disagreement on framing: some argue “hidden microphone in a Chinese KVM” is accurate because the retail KVM product didn’t advertise it prominently; others see this as overblown, since the mic is obvious on the PCB and documented in the wiki.

Threat Model: Mic vs KVM Compromise

  • Several argue that if an attacker has control of your KVM, they already have keyboard, mouse, and video; the microphone is a minor incremental risk.
  • Others note mics and even fan noise can be used as side channels for keylogging or air‑gap exfiltration, so it is still concerning in principle.
  • Counterpoint: using audio for keylogging in this context is perverse when the KVM itself can log keys directly.
  • Some emphasize most NanoKVMs are likely used in home labs, not loud, locked‑down server rooms.

Software & Security Critiques

  • More serious issues discussed: default passwords with SSH enabled, everything running as root, shared keys for JWT and firmware encryption, and lack of CSRF protection.
  • By contrast, complaints about missing systemd/apt, use of Chinese DNS servers, and inclusion of tools like tcpdump/aircrack are widely dismissed as misunderstanding embedded Linux and normal BSP practices.
  • Commenters note some flaws have already been fixed (e.g., SSH disabled by default; mic drivers removed).

Trust in Networked KVMs & BMCs

  • Broad consensus that any network‑connected KVM/BMC is inherently high‑risk and should live on an isolated management VLAN/subnet.
  • Anecdotes about other KVMs with unexplained traffic illustrate how opaque these devices can be; others show that “mysterious” traffic may just be documented bridge behavior.
  • Multiple comments argue the real systemic problem is weak security across embedded/BMC products globally, not uniquely “Chinese” malice.