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Nostalgia & Personal Impact

• Many recall WarCraft II as their first RTS and a formative game: Christmas gifts, demos played hundreds of times, obsessively copying it via floppies, and sneaking late‑night sessions.
• Several say it nudged them toward software careers or learning hex editing.
• Mac players remember long waits for the port but also tight IRC communities and manual leaderboards.

Apex of RTS & Esports Debates

• Strong disagreement over the “apex” of RTS: candidates include WarCraft II, StarCraft: Brood War, StarCraft 2, WarCraft III: TFT, Dawn of War, Total Annihilation, Supreme Commander, and Dawn of War 2.
• Brood War is praised for deep balance, multiple asymmetric races, difficulty, and its Korean pro scene (team houses, TV channels, salaried players).
• Others credit Quake, Counter‑Strike, and earlier competitions for starting esports, with consensus that Brood War “started modern esports” at scale.

Game Design, Mechanics & Aesthetics

• WC2 is described as simpler, “purer,” and still fun, though some find it clunky, visually outdated, and overshadowed by StarCraft/WC3.
• Distinctive touches admired: unit personality (“zug zug,” sound bites), soundtrack (including Red Book audio), art and manuals, and the “soul” of the game.
• Mechanics people loved: naval combat and oil, buildings-as-walls, farm moats, exploiting building spawn push to hop terrain.
• Multiple commenters mourn the loss of naval combat in later RTS titles.
• Opinions diverge on remasters: some find them tasteful; others dislike cleaner fonts and subtle art changes that feel like AI upscaling.

Multiplayer, Networking & Communities

• Kali’s IPX-over-TCP bridge and dial‑up modem play are remembered as magical first online experiences, alongside Doom/Descent.
• AOL’s Engage partnership exposed many to WC2 but generated huge per‑minute bills; cheaper alternatives included MSN Gaming Zone and, later, Battle.net edition.
• Lockstep deterministic networking (fixed‑point math, int‑based logic) is noted as enabling smooth play over high latency.
• Clan cultures (AOL clans, Cases Ladder, comp‑stomps on Battle.net) left strong social memories.

Modding, Tools & Legacy Projects

• The map editor is called revolutionary and easy to use; custom maps and strategies flourished.
• A rich modding scene (e.g., WarDraft counterparts, PSX source tree) is fondly recalled, inspiring modern archival efforts like Jorsys.
• Total Annihilation’s lineage survives in FOSS projects like Spring, Recoil, and Beyond All Reason, which some now consider the best active RTS.

RTS Genre & Modern Industry Critique

• Many lament the decline of mainstream RTS: steep learning curves, low monetization, and publisher disinterest.
• Attempts to “simplify” RTS for mass appeal (e.g., sequels that chase console/MOBA trends) are widely criticized as ruining otherwise strong series.
• Some argue MOBAs (Dota, League) are RTS descendants and now dominate; others reject calling them RTS at all.
• Blizzard’s shift away from RTS, abandonment of SC2, and lack of support for community modding are seen as emblematic of broader industry changes.
• Commenters contrast WC2’s ~1‑year development cycle and “complete on CD” release with today’s long dev times, heavy focus on cosmetics, early access, and slower, more confusing UX despite better tools.

Subjective vs. Physical “Flow” of Time

• Several comments argue that time doesn’t literally “flow”; flow is a subjective experience tied to memory and records of the past, while the future is open or unpredictable.
• Some propose that in more predictable environments (e.g., planetary orbits) a hypothetical experiencer might feel less directional “flow” of time.
• Others push back that we do empirically observe a one‑way arrow of time; if time went backward in any detectable way, we’d expect some evidence.

Arrow of Time, Entropy, and the Past Hypothesis

• A “canonical” physics view is raised: fundamental laws are time‑symmetric, but a very low‑entropy early universe (“past hypothesis”) explains why entropy increases in what we call the future.
• From a macrostate view, running dynamics forward or backward from “now” mostly leads to higher entropy either way; direction emerges from boundary conditions, not local laws.

Relativity, Light, and Proper Time

• Multiple comments explore relativistic time dilation: higher speeds or stronger gravity slow proper time relative to other frames.
• Discussion of photons: in the limit of speed of light, proper time along the path goes to zero, raising questions about what it means for a photon to “experience” creation and absorption, and whether it even has a meaningful frame of reference.
• Some debate whether “zero lifetime” or “infinitesimal lifetime” is a better way to talk about photons, and what counts as the universal speed limit.

What Time Is: Fundamental, Emergent, or Illusory?

• Views range from time as a survival‑oriented sensory construct to time as a fundamental, irreducible aspect of reality.
• Others suggest time could be related to entropy/heat, gravity, or even consciousness, including fringe ideas like “time as emergent from quantum consciousness” or occult notions of reverse‑running “etheric time.”
• Philosophical resources (e.g., Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy) and lectures are linked for deeper treatments.

Measuring or Talking About the “Speed” of Time

• One thread dissects the phrase “speed of time”: “seconds per second” is seen as either trivial or meaningless without a second‑order time.
• Counterpoint: in practice we compare clock rates in different frames; that relative change is what we mean by time “running faster or slower.”

Meta and Tone of the Thread

• Some lament a high density of “crank” or speculative comments on such topics; others jokingly invoke simulated universes, lazy loading, and “creator as programmer.”
• Complaints about intrusive ads, speculation about AI‑written comments, and reading recommendations (e.g., popular physics books on time) round out the discussion.

Modern Walkman Hardware Quality

• Multiple comments say nearly all new cassette Walkmans share the same cheap, bulky transport from a single remaining factory.
• This limits miniaturization (no more “tape-sized” players) and means “premium” models are mostly cosmetic upgrades on the same mediocre mechanism.
• Several people report that cleaned, decades‑old Sony/Panasonic units sound and feel better than any current production model.
• Some buyers call modern units “kitsch” or “for hipsters,” citing flaws like ignoring write‑protect tabs and general low reliability.

Comparison with Vintage Tape, CD, MiniDisc, and MP3

• Strong nostalgia for late‑era cassette Walkmans and Discman‑style CD players, praised as beautifully engineered, slim, and robust.
• MiniDisc gets a lot of love: shock‑resistant, rewritable, small, with good editing features; but remembered as expensive, DRM‑laden, and ultimately crushed by MP3 players.
• People note that flash storage is now so cheap that choosing cassettes over MP3/phone is hard to justify on practicality.
• Some still hunt for simple, offline MP3 players (old iPods, Sansa Clip), and retrofit them with large SD cards and new firmware.

Nostalgia, Constraints, and Physical Media

• Many enjoy the constraint of a tape or record: fewer choices, full‑album listening, no constant skipping.
• Cassettes, vinyl, and even MiniDiscs are framed as “cool” objects or merch, valued for tactility, artwork, and giftability (e.g., mixtapes) rather than pure fidelity.
• Others call this “false nostalgia,” recalling bulky, battery‑hungry players, wow/flutter, eaten tapes, and skipping portable CD players.

Audio Quality and Durability Debates

• One side: cassettes are low quality and fragile, especially in cars.
• Other side: with good decks, decent tapes (chrome or high‑quality ferro), and Dolby, tapes can sound “pretty damn good,” and survive hundreds–thousands of plays if stored properly.
• Similar argument around CDs: some recall them as nearly indestructible; others say they scratched easily and skipped badly in early portables.
• Several comments argue that perceived “warmth” of analog is mostly about mastering choices (loudness wars vs older dynamics), not the medium itself.

Fad, Niche, and Environmental Concerns

• Some expect the cassette resurgence to be short‑lived; others note that certain underground genres have used tapes continuously, so it’s more “niche” than “fad.”
• There’s a closing critique that buying new cassette gear is unnecessary consumption and e‑waste, given digital’s clear technical superiority.

Steady Progress vs “Breakthrough” Moments

• Some argue AI capability improves smoothly across benchmarks, matching their daily experience (especially in coding and question-answering).
• Others say these benchmarks are opaque, lab-designed marketing tools, and in real work they see only 5–10% productivity improvement, not “orders of magnitude.”
• Several developers report LLMs still slow them down for anything non-trivial, due to hallucinations and the need for deep review, while smaller code edits and CRUD-style apps can be sped up significantly.

Validity of the Horse / Engine Analogy

• Critics note horses vs engines was not just “efficiency line go up”: internal combustion, fuel infrastructure, and mass-market cars all mattered; horse decline took decades and varied by domain (city vs farm horses).
• People dispute whether the analogy is about “beings” (horses/humans) or “jobs.” Some say it really describes job categories disappearing once a threshold is crossed, not literal depopulation.
• Others find the framing dehumanizing or disturbing: graphing horse extinction and then hoping humans “get two decades” feels like economic determinism with little concern for human welfare.

Work, Inequality, and Who Benefits

• One camp is optimistic: boring admin/email/PowerPoint jobs will shrink, freeing humans for more meaningful work, as with bank clerks and ATMs.
• Another camp expects gains to flow mostly to capital: past automation hasn’t made housing, healthcare, or security more accessible; kiosks and self-checkout often cut labor without lowering prices.
• Fears include: hollowing out white-collar work, weakened bargaining power, “bullshit jobs” being replaced without new good ones, and possible social unrest if many become economically irrelevant.
• Counter-arguments stress that economies still need consumers; fully discarding human labor would collapse demand, so political and regulatory “human protectionism” is likely.

Limits of Current LLMs and Path to AGI

• Many commenters emphasize structural limits: LLMs are powerful text predictors, not reasoners; hallucinations remain unsolved; they lack continuous learning, symbolic reasoning, and rich multimodal grounding.
• Others think modest architectural tweaks plus scale may be enough, and expect more “sudden” tipping points like code-assistant UIs that quietly transform workflows.
• There’s concern that companies oversell disruption (“we’ll automate office work”) to drive adoption and valuations, even as practitioners see fragile tools that must be tightly bounded and supervised.

Culture, Governance, and Ethics

• Discussion touches on oligarchic control, wealth concentration, the risk that AI undermines redistribution mechanisms, and the need for unions, regulation, or UBI.
• Some want non-proliferation–style controls if AI is truly existential; others think panic outpaces evidence and that technology should be shaped by democratic choices, not just investor incentives.

Core idea as discussed

• Many commenters interpret the paper as showing that across many independently trained models (LLMs, ViTs, ResNets, diffusion, etc.), most of the “interesting” weight variation lies in a tiny, shared low‑dimensional subspace (often ~16–40 directions per layer).
• Fine‑tuned models of the same base (e.g., hundreds of Mistral-7B LoRAs, ViT finetunes) can be represented by projecting their weights onto this universal basis with little or no loss in performance.
• One experiment highlighted: hundreds of ViTs can be reconstructed from a 16‑dimensional shared subspace with no significant accuracy drop, implying extreme compression and a common “weight skeleton.”

Practical implications and hopes

• Potential to:
  • Initialize new models in this subspace instead of from scratch, reducing training cost.
  • Store the universal basis once and represent each finetune with just a tiny coefficient vector (tens of floats), dramatically cutting storage.
  • Possibly speed up inference by factoring weight multiplies through low‑rank bases, though commenters note this is not yet clearly demonstrated.
• Some see it as “LoRA but better”: a more principled, universal low‑rank structure capturing what transfers across tasks.

Scope, limitations, and skepticism

• Much of the strongest result is on:
  • Finetunes of the same base model (shared initialization, architecture, optimizer).
  • CNNs, where local convolutions already bias filters toward standard signal-processing shapes.
• Critics argue:
  • “Universal” here mostly means “universal for a given architecture/base model and training pipeline.”
  • Results on scratch‑trained models are limited and not clearly shown for large, disjoint LLMs trained on very different data.
  • Spectral decay + PCA always find dominant directions; the surprising part is cross‑model universality, not low‑rankness per se, and that might be oversold.
• Concerns raised about reliance on random HuggingFace finetunes and shared datasets; universality might partly reflect shared training corpora.

Relations to other theories and philosophy

• Multiple links drawn to the Platonic / universal representation hypotheses and “Platonic space” ideas: a shared latent structure across models and modalities.
• Some see this as potentially analogous to shared “plumbing” of human cognition; others frame it as mere optimization and compression, not deep metaphysics.

Intuitions and analogies

• Smoothie recipes with a shared base, 3D character rigs with a few expression controls, JPEG/SVD compression, bzip2 with a universal dictionary, and even π as a discovered constant were all used to explain how many huge models might share one small, reusable basis of “directions” in weight space.

Centralized Robotics vs. Micro‑Fulfillment

• Commenters highlight that Kroger’s main failure was putting massive robotic fulfillment centers (CFCs) far from cities, producing low order density and long drive times.
• Several note this contradicts the density-driven logic that made Ocado’s model workable in the UK, while the US is more spread out.
• Many argue the underlying issue is logistics and network design, not robotics per se: they “optimized the wrong part” of the system.
• There is support for a pivot to micro‑fulfillment and in‑store picking, closer to Amazon/Whole Foods’ approach and to Walmart’s “every store is a fulfillment center” model.

Economics of Online Grocery & Labor

• Multiple posts stress that grocery margins are razor thin and $10–$15 per order often doesn’t cover picking, packing, transportation, and driver time.
• Some claim delivery is partly paid for by giving online customers older or less desirable stock, reducing spoilage; others report UK services with explicit “fresh for X days” guarantees that avoid this.
• One practitioner in European online grocery says Ocado’s tech is “ridiculously expensive,” designed for very large FCs, while the sweet spot is much smaller facilities that can profitably handle 3–10k orders/day.

Customer Preferences and Adoption

• There is a strong split: some love avoiding stores and happily tip delivery shoppers; others insist on seeing and touching produce and meat, especially higher‑variance items like brisket.
• Several note that even in dense European cities, many people still prefer quick walk‑in shops; others counter that online grocery is heavily used for bulky or heavy items.
• Some argue that attachment to in‑person food shopping, browsing, and impulse buying makes grocery behavior unusually “sticky.”

Automation in Retail & Restaurants

• Broader automation examples come up: McDonald’s kiosks, AI drive‑thru ordering, and self‑checkout.
• Many dislike kiosks and self‑checkout UX but acknowledge they reliably upsell and cut front‑of‑house labor.
• A recurring theme is the “last 5% takes 95% of the time”: robots and AI handle structured tasks, but messy, variable food environments remain hard and expensive to automate.

Alternative Models, History, and Strategy

• Ideas floated include multi‑story stores with automated storage, “walls only” supermarkets where center‑store items are picked from the back, and hybrid human‑plus‑robot picking.
• Commenters connect these to historic models: catalog stores, clerk‑picked general stores, automats, and early failed “automated” groceries.
• Some see Kroger’s rollout as driven partly by incentives and tax breaks, and question the headline: did the company overbet on robotics, or just mis‑site and mis‑market an otherwise viable technology?

Pricing, Launch, and Business Model

• Commenters suggest making the product fully free during HN exposure to maximize adoption, then later charging for “must-have” features.
• In response, everyone signing up during launch is put on a full-feature “business” plan and will be grandfathered into future plans.
• Some push back on the idea of paying users for their “training data,” arguing that paid adoption is a better signal of product–market fit.
• There is debate over whether this can realistically become a viable SaaS given existing incumbents and enterprise requirements.

Positioning vs Existing Tools

• Multiple people ask what this offers over Google Docs, Apple Notes, Notion, Obsidian, Logseq, and Emacs Org mode.
• The stated value prop: structured “entries” per meeting, per-person sections for clarity on who wrote what, first-class action tracking, templates, and quick navigation/search across recurring meetings.
• Some find that compelling; others see it as “just a shareable text file” or extra complexity vs their current workflow.

UX, Features, and Bugs

• Interface is widely praised as clean and simple, with low friction.
• Users request: a mobile app, exports for full local backup, and clearer onboarding for checklists, bullets, and keyboard shortcuts (shortcuts currently mimic lightweight Markdown).
• Issues raised: RTL text rendered incorrectly, a floating formatting toolbar obscuring content on mobile, difficulty pasting into the email field on Android Firefox, and occasional sign-in code/email problems.

Security, Hosting, and Trust

• A major theme: people handling confidential 1:1 content say they cannot use a third-party hosted web app without long security reviews, SSO, or vendor approval.
• Several insist self-hosted/on-prem (ideally with one-time payment) is mandatory; the creator says this is planned and was architected with self-host in mind.
• Some argue that no serious company will trust a one-person SaaS with sensitive data; others counter that not all organizations are that strict and that new tools must start somewhere.

Alternative Practices and Philosophies

• Many describe preferring pen-and-paper or E‑ink tablets for meetings, citing better memory, focus, and eye contact.
• Others stick with existing digital note systems but are curious whether this tool’s simplicity might improve their recurring-meeting workflow.

Reactions to Physician Probability Estimates

• Commenters are surprised that US physicians gave a median ~25% chance that ideal cryopreservation preserves enough neural information for possible future revival.
• Some suspect selection bias (doctors interested in the topic responding) and influence from funders connected to cryopreservation.
• A coauthor clarifies methods: both generalists and many specialists were surveyed with quotas; no post‑hoc exclusion; hypothermia examples were meant as precedent, not equivalence.
• Others argue that asking current clinicians to assign probabilities to never‑attempted future tech is inherently speculative and comparable to guessing about fictional technology.

Feasibility, Incentives, and Legal Structures

• Major skepticism that, under capitalism, organizations will actually maintain bodies for centuries: risk of bankruptcy, cost‑cutting, or outright fraud, with no recourse for the dead.
• Nonprofit status and the fact that staff are often signed up themselves are seen by some as stronger incentives; others note non‑profits can drift or be hijacked.
• Proposed mitigations: independent trusts that drip‑feed funds to storage providers and can replace them; but trusts themselves can be mismanaged or misaligned.
• Historical examples of cryonics failures (bankrupt firms, thawed bodies) fuel doubt that infrastructure can last 100–200 years, especially amid political and climatic instability.
• Technical debate touches on ice‑crystal damage vs vitrification; some claim the “ice crystal problem” is solved in principle, others stress that “ideal conditions” ignore real‑world error rates.

Philosophical Views on Death, Time, and Self

• Many compare death to anesthesia or dreamless sleep: no passage of time subjectively, possibly followed by “waking” elsewhere if some recurrence or revival occurs.
• Others push back on assumptions about infinite time: infinity doesn’t guarantee every configuration reoccurs; heat death or eternal proton “vapor” states may preclude recombination of a specific brain.
• Boltzmann brain and multiverse scenarios are discussed, with some noting they lead to unsettling solipsistic conclusions.
• There’s debate over whether consciousness could be restored by mere atomic (or structural) recombination, and over whether quantum effects matter at that scale.
• Several commenters express Buddhist‑style or no‑self views: “you” are an evolving, distributed process, so worrying about the exact same self being revived may be a category error.
• Others find comfort in the Lucretian symmetry: nonexistence after death is no worse than before birth, and fear should focus more on suffering while dying than on what follows.

Personal Stories, Risk, and Moral Responsibility

• A long subthread centers on a story of an overweight father dying of a heart attack after hiking to protect his daughter, and the poster’s guilt for not going instead.
• Responses range from reassurance (“not your fault”) to reminders about personal responsibility and lifetime health choices, to criticism of fat‑shaming.
• Several people reflect on the “butterfly effect” vs obvious risks (e.g., frail seniors on strenuous hikes), and how becoming a parent raises one’s appetite for safety.
• The discussion branches into how to think probabilistically about risky behavior and how much responsibility we bear for others’ choices.

Cultural and Fictional References

• Commenters invoke Star Trek: TNG, Arthur C. Clarke’s “3001,” Transmetropolitan, and Mark Twain’s quip on pre‑birth “nonexistence” to explore social shock, ethics, and personal attitudes toward death.
• One asks whether cryonics work in animals parallels well‑established cryopreservation of cells and embryos; no clear consensus or detailed answer emerges.
• A minority questions the point of revival in a future where the economy may not “need” humans; others reply that motives for preserving life go beyond economic utility.

Environmental and Transport Tradeoffs

• Many argue robots are clearly better than 2,000 lb cars for short “burrito runs,” but others say this is a strawman and that the real comparison should be to bikes, e‑bikes, or walking.
• Some contend that human-powered bikes are far more energy-efficient than small electric vehicles; others counter that humans are energy-inefficient “engines” and eat regardless, so marginal robot energy might be lower.
• There’s disagreement over whether robots are environmentally “better” than cyclists: some see robots as “bike minus human,” others note the environmental cost of manufacturing and maintaining robots at all.

Demand for Delivery and Work Culture

• Several comments link heavy delivery use to long commutes, exhausting jobs, and lack of remote work; delivery is framed as time/energy “recovery” for overworked people.
• Others see rampant food delivery as lazy or absurd, arguing people should just go get their own food.

Where Robots Should Operate

• Strong pushback on robots using sidewalks, especially where bikes and scooters are already banned.
• Some suggest dedicated infrastructure or using bike lanes/roads, but others note higher liability, visibility issues, and risk of serious cyclist crashes.

Accessibility and Safety Concerns

• Repeated first-hand reports from Chicago: robots blocking the only shoveled path, sitting in the middle of sidewalks, bright blinding lights, fast speeds, awkward cornering.
• Commenters highlight risks for wheelchair users, people with canes, blind pedestrians, elderly, and winter conditions.
• Toronto’s ban is cited as prioritizing disability access over robot trials.

Use of Public Space and Labor Issues

• Critics see this as corporations monetizing scarce pedestrian infrastructure and externalizing commercial costs onto sidewalks.
• Some object that robots displace low-wage delivery work; others call that a “lamplighter fallacy,” arguing progress shouldn’t be frozen to preserve specific jobs.

Public Acceptance, Vandalism, and Regulation

• Many predict robots will be vandalized, flipped, netted, or blocked in, especially in rougher neighborhoods; some see this as “self-correcting” market feedback.
• There is debate over legality of kicking/moving a blocking robot and whether regulation vs direct action is the right response.
• Others argue cities elsewhere (e.g., parts of LA, some campuses) have already iterated toward workable coexistence, though others dispute that the problem is “solved.”

Autonomous Vehicles, Drones, and Future Visions

• One camp imagines a future of sidewalk robots, robotaxis, and drones replacing most parked cars and human drivers: less fuel, fewer accidents, more bike lanes.
• Another camp fears noise, surveillance, algorithmic prioritization over people, and e‑waste from abandoned hardware, likening it to dystopian sci‑fi.
• Waymo’s safety versus human drivers is hotly contested, with some emphasizing good stats and others sharing anecdotes of aggressive AV behavior and questioning corporate motives.

Alternatives and Humor

• Suggestions include human couriers on bikes, underground delivery tunnels, pneumatic “burrito tubes,” artillery-style burrito launchers, and eventual bipedal or quadrupedal robots.
• Several comments mix serious criticism with dark or absurd humor about nets, tridents, rivers, and “scrapping robots for metal.”

Role of Icons in Menus

• Thread centers on whether “icons everywhere” in menus (esp. macOS Tahoe, Google Docs/Sheets) improves usability or just adds visual noise.
• Many see a shift from earlier guidance (“icons only when helpful”) to a blanket “everything gets an icon” aesthetic.

Arguments that Icons Help

• Faster scanning: users report they can spot known icons (delete, link, align, justify, save) much quicker than reading full labels.
• Muscle memory: icons act as landmarks; over time people navigate by “second item under the trash icon” more than by words.
• Cross‑surface consistency: menu icons match toolbar/shortcut icons, teaching users there’s a faster way than menus.
• Localization & literacy: icons help when language skills are weak or UI/docs are in different languages; some low‑vision or post‑stroke users rely on icons more than text.
• Empirical claims: UX research and big‑app testing (e.g., social feeds) reportedly show some users prefer text, some icons, many both; icons+labels generally maximizes “legibility.”

Arguments that Icons Hurt (as Commonly Implemented)

• Visual clutter: dozens of tiny monochrome, look‑alike symbols blur together; users must read labels anyway, defeating the purpose.
• Poor distinctiveness: flat, same‑shaped, same‑color sets (Google app icons, AWS/Atlassian, Tahoe menus) are hard to tell apart; silhouettes and color are missed.
• Arbitrary mapping: icon packs encourage picking “closest” glyphs, not meaningful ones; many menu icons don’t clearly depict their action.
• Lost hierarchy: when everything has an icon, icons can no longer highlight frequent or important commands; thoughtful omission used to signal priority.
• Some users simply ignore icons and read only text; for them it’s pure noise.

Design Quality, Patterns, and Guidelines

• Positive models: Blender’s commands always have labels, icons only when widely understood; older Windows/Office guidelines and macOS/GTK recommend icons for common, well‑illustrable actions, not all items.
• Customization praised: KDE/GTK settings (icons only/text only/both), Office‑style configurable toolbars, and the idea of per‑user menu icon preferences.

Save Icon and Symbolism Debate

• Strong disagreement over the floppy‑disk save icon:
  • One side: it’s now just a conventional symbol; changing it would confuse.
  • Other side: it’s no longer representative for most users and exemplifies non‑illustrative, logo‑like symbols that communicate only via prior learning, not depiction.

Headline and Evidence

• Many commenters reject the “90%” claim outright, invoking Betteridge’s law and criticizing the article’s unit-less graph and lack of empirical support.
• Several point out that any “cost drop” ignores massive GPU/datacenter spending and current unprofitable AI economics.
• Multiple people ask: if costs really dropped that much, where is the observable explosion of high‑quality, cheap software?

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Reported Productivity Changes

• Experiences are polarized. Some report modest gains (e.g. 30–50% faster on coding tasks) or even being slower with AI; others claim 5–10x speedups for solo dev work, quick feature shipping, prototypes, internal tools, and personal utilities.
• Consensus that AI is most useful for:
  • Boilerplate, scaffolding, simple CRUD, integrations, scripts.
  • Navigating and understanding codebases, debugging, and refactors.
• It struggles with complex, messy, long‑lived systems, subtle logic, and maintaining behavior without regressions.

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Quality, Testing, and Maintenance

• Strong skepticism about “300 tests in a few hours”: many say AI-written tests are often superficial, redundant, or outright wrong and require heavy review.
• Several note that human-written production code is often terrible too, so AI “slop vs human slop” is not obviously worse—but AI amplifies code volume, which increases long‑term maintenance cost.
• A repeated theme: building v1 may be cheaper, but maintenance, feature evolution, debugging, security, and organizational risk still dominate total cost.

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Career, Skills, and Developer Anxiety

• Many developers are anxious about “how to position” themselves. Common advice:
  • Deepen domain/business knowledge and move from “specs-to-code” to “solve business problems”.
  • Broaden to full‑stack, product, or PM‑adjacent roles, or specialize in hard/low‑level areas less amenable to automation.
  • Treat LLMs as powerful junior partners: learn prompt design, agent orchestration, and project management of AI.

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SaaS, Internal Tools, and Spreadsheets

• Contrary to the 90% thesis, several note no visible collapse of major SaaS players or tidal wave of new SaaS, though some report:
  • Companies replacing expensive SaaS (e.g. ETL, Salesforce‑like tools) with cheaper in‑house systems now feasible with AI.
  • Solo/indie devs targeting small niches that previously weren’t worth building for.
• Big debate over replacing “core” spreadsheets: spreadsheets are flexible and empower domain experts but become opaque, error‑prone “shadow IT.” Some see AI‑built internal apps (Streamlit, Rails, etc.) as a partial upgrade; others argue most such replacements just reinvent Excel badly.

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Organizational and Hype Constraints

• Many stress that coding is only a fraction of software cost; coordination, requirements, change management, and support dominate, and AI doesn’t fix that.
• Several compare current claims to self‑driving cars and past “software is dead” moments (outsourcing, low‑code).
• Overall sentiment: AI coding tools are genuinely useful and sometimes transformative at the margin, but “90% cheaper software” is not yet visible in real organizations.

Initial reactions and related resources

• Some readers initially misread “Jepsen NATS” as aviation-related; others link to a recent Jepsen/Antithesis distributed-systems glossary as useful background.

Fsync, durability, and performance tradeoffs

• Major focus on “lazy fsync”: NATS JetStream’s default is to flush to disk every two minutes while acknowledging writes immediately.
• Many see this as benchmark-driven and dangerous; a recurring view is that systems should default to safe durability and let users explicitly opt into “fast but risky.”
• Others argue many workloads don’t need strict durability and that batching fsyncs for throughput is normal in filesystems and databases.
• Several comments describe batching/group-commit strategies (similar to Postgres, Cassandra, etc.) that can preserve both safety and throughput, criticizing a fixed multi-minute timer as extreme.

NATS JetStream behavior and Jepsen findings

• Commenters highlight Jepsen results: acknowledged messages can be lost, single-bit corruption can cause large data loss, snapshot corruption can cascade into stream deletion, and split-brain scenarios can persist.
• Many are surprised at how fragile JetStream is to simple corruption and membership changes, especially given marketing claims of durability and “store and replay.”
• Some note that NATS core is explicitly best-effort/ephemeral, but JetStream is promoted as persistent; mixing those mental models is seen as dangerous.

Comparisons with other systems and “safe defaults”

• Comparisons to early MongoDB and its durability tradeoffs recur.
• Discussion contrasts NATS with Kafka, Redis (including Redis Streams), MQTT, Postgres, SQLite, CockroachDB, FoundationDB, etc., focusing on when they acknowledge writes and what guarantees that implies.
• There is disagreement over how common “acknowledged-but-not-durable” defaults are; some claim it’s widespread, others say it’s not acceptable for a system marketing durability.

Theory vs pragmatism and ecosystem responses

• Thread debates “overcomplicated theory” vs hacker pragmatism: some argue ignoring distributed-systems theory repeatedly leads to disastrous bugs; others warn against perfectionism blocking value.
• NATS project responses on GitHub are critiqued as underestimating real failure modes.
• A few suggest alternatives (Kafka/Redpanda, Redis, custom builds, s2.dev) and praise Jepsen’s role in independent verification.

Perceived AI Authorship and Writing Quality

• Many commenters suspect the article is partially AI-written, citing:
  • Bolded listy subheads (“The Cash Flow Mystery”), stock rhetorical patterns, and inconsistent tone.
  • Typos, odd phrasings, and time-reference glitches that feel like LLM output or poorly edited AI assistance.
• Some argue AI writing is “convincing-but-wrong” and avoid such content entirely; others see this as an “ad machinam” attack that dodges engagement with the actual arguments.
• A minority defend the prose as “generally well written,” suggesting ESL or light LLM assistance plus human edits.

Circular Funding / Wash Trading Debate

• One side: Circular funding is overstated.
  • If Nvidia invests billions and customers spend that on Nvidia chips, profits don’t magically appear; it just inflates revenue that sophisticated investors should discount.
  • This resembles vendor financing or bartering with real goods (chips) changing hands, not pure wash trading.
• Other side: It distorts incentives and valuations.
  • Markets often price on revenue growth, not profit, so circular deals can pump valuations despite zero net economic value.
  • Analogies to crypto wash trading and Cisco-era dot-com vendor financing.
  • Some highlight accounting optics: investment as an asset, chip sales as revenue, making growth look “costless” even if economically risky.

AI Bubble, Burry’s Short, and Demand vs. Capacity

• Several see Nvidia–OpenAI–Oracle as part of a broader AI bubble:
  • Infrastructure build-out may be far ahead of realistic revenue timelines.
  • Concerns about GPU oversupply relative to data center power, racks, and real downstream demand.
  • Comparisons to dot-com era overbuild, with fears of “winter” once hype cools and CFOs stop feeling compelled to fund AI.
• Others downplay circular funding specifically, framing Burry’s bet as against AI profitability and timing rather than fraud.

Finance and Accounting Critiques

• Multiple commenters say the article misunderstands:
  • Differences between net income vs. operating cash flow.
  • Normal ranges for days sales outstanding and inventory in a long-lead hardware business.
• Some call the financial analysis “garbage” and overly confident for a non-finance author.

Groq, SRAM, and Oracle

• Technical subthread challenges the article’s claim that SRAM-based architectures (e.g., Groq) avoid HBM constraints:
  • SRAM is far less dense and more silicon-expensive than DRAM; both logic and DRAM fabs are capacity-constrained.
  • Prior SRAM-heavy designs (e.g., Graphcore) struggled with capacity; DRAM remains more cost-effective for LLMs.
• Skepticism that Oracle buying Groq would help much:
  • Oracle’s AI cloud value is tied to CUDA/Nvidia compatibility; non-CUDA chips shrink the addressable market.

Pace of AI Progress and Impact on Developers

• Some argue AI will outstrip all human programmers within a few years and eliminate a large share of software jobs, driven by huge economic incentives.
• Others call this irrational extrapolation, noting similar claims since GPT‑3 and warning about assuming exponential improvement instead of a plateau.
• There’s disagreement on whether current models are already “good at coding”: many say yes in absolute terms; others say they still fail badly in complex, real-world codebases.

Quality, Reliability, and “Nondeterminism”

• Several point out that AI-generated code is often superficially plausible but wrong in subtle ways, especially in large legacy systems.
• A long side-thread clarifies that LLMs are theoretically deterministic; what matters is reliability, not determinism. Sampling and batching make API behavior appear nondeterministic.
• The key concern: AI outputs lack the guarantees we expect from compilers, type systems, and tests.

Verification, Testing, and “Verification Debt”

• Many agree the core issue is verification asymmetry: AI can generate huge amounts of code faster than humans can confidently review.
• People predict “verification debt” will surpass traditional tech debt without strong automated tests, workload simulation, previews, and organizational standards.
• TDD, formal verification, strong type systems, and platform-enforced patterns are highlighted as ways to make “spot‑checking” meaningful. Others feel this is just old QA/TDD ideas being rediscovered under an AI banner.

Practical AI Coding Workflows

• AI shines on small, greenfield, well-structured projects; struggles with large, messy monoliths and microservice sprawl without careful context management.
• Effective patterns: method-level generation, AI-assisted refactors, AI-written tests for human-written code, and iteratively building AI-readable documentation.
• Some envision future roles where developers act more like product/verification managers over AI agents; others warn about over-reliance and hidden complexity.

Human Expertise, Overtrust, and Other Domains

• Multiple comments stress that AI amplifies existing skill: experts can judge and steer it; novices can’t reliably tell good from bad output (code, config, or world‑peace advice).
• Overtrust is seen as dangerous; anecdotes show people treating AI as an oracle, even in gambling.
• Visual design is used as a counterexample to the claim that “everyone can verify images”: trained designers see many issues non-experts miss.

Superintelligence, Alignment, and Utopias

• Some dismiss AI-utopian or AI-doom narratives as sci‑fi fanfiction lacking a theory of power or realistic alignment path.
• Others argue alignment may be extremely hard or unsolved, and that a truly superintelligent system might pursue goals misaligned with human autonomy.

Brand Sprawl and Naming Confusion

• Many commenters mock the “Copilot everywhere” branding (Windows, 365, GitHub, VS, terminal, hardware button) as incoherent and confusing, with each “Copilot” behaving differently and offering different capabilities.
• Physical Copilot keys on new laptops that do nothing or open minimal web views are seen as emblematic of overpromising and underdelivering.

Product Quality, Integration, and UX Failures

• Repeated anecdotes of Copilot features in Outlook, Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Teams, VS/VS Code, terminal, and Windows either not working, being context-blind, or destroying structure (e.g., rewriting reports instead of editing; broken HTML; Copilot buttons with empty menus).
• A common theme: Copilot UIs are just side panels or chat boxes with little real integration into the underlying app or data; users can do better by copy‑pasting into ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini.
• Many see this as another iteration of Clippy/Cortana/MS Bob: intrusive assistants pushed rather than invited, now multiplied across the OS.

Bundling, Monopoly, and Procurement

• Strong view that Microsoft will drive adoption via bundling and licensing, not user demand: “we already pay for M365, why pay for anything else?”
• Teams is cited as the template: mediocre product that wins on integration, contracts, and IT inertia, not user preference.
• Some predict Copilot will be “forced” in enterprises regardless of staff enthusiasm.

Strategy, Talent, and Leadership Critiques

• Several argue Microsoft hires “middle of the market” talent and relies on legacy monopolies and tying instead of competing on product merit; others counter that compensation ≠ ability and that this framing is oversimplified.
• Nadella’s AI push is compared to Ballmer’s cloud push: right bet, poor execution.
• Multiple calls for a leadership change and a “product person” to refocus on core quality (Windows, Office) before layering AI on top.

Competitors and Alternatives

• Gemini is praised as fast and practical; Claude/Cursor and other coding tools are widely seen as better integrated and more capable than GitHub/VS Copilot.
• Some note Azure AI backend services are decent, but fear marketing and renaming (“Foundry”, “Dragon Copilot”) will eventually degrade them.
• A few report genuine value from Copilot in Teams (meeting summaries, action items) and Excel (data cleanup, formulas), but this is framed as the exception, not the rule.

Economic and Structural Factors

• Several threads tie the AI push to stock-market incentives: being perceived as an “AI company” is seen as more important than delivering viable products; AI features are treated as a way to sell stock and upsell licenses, not solve user problems.

North Korean Internet & Intelligence Operations

• Early experiences probing DPRK infrastructure found strong perimeter firewalls and quick incident response, making intranet access via compromised public servers difficult.
• Leaked NSA tooling and documents mention targeting North Korean antivirus (Silivaccine) and Red Star OS, suggesting past penetration but likely increasing hardening over time.
• Commenters generally assume NSA and others have had some access but see DPRK as a particularly challenging environment for long-term, stealthy operations.

Endpoints, Remote Access, and User Software

• Discussion of client-side tools:
  • “Netkey”/“Oconnect” reportedly required for domestic network access.
  • “Hangro” described as a VPN-like system allowing external users to connect back into DPRK for messaging.
• It remains unclear whether any endpoints simultaneously bridge intranet and full internet, but such dual-homed systems are seen as a prime theoretical vector.

Mobile Networks and Tourist Access

• One claim: three mobile networks (citizen, government/military, and tourist-only), with the tourist network having internet connectivity via special SIMs.
• A traveler disputes this, reporting only voice calls from Pyongyang hotels and highly restricted data access, with one casino terminal in Rason as a rare internet outlet.
• Overall status of tourist mobile internet is left as uncertain.

IPv4 Space, Routing, and Politics

• DPRK’s small visible IPv4 space (about 1,024 addresses) is attributed to limited need for externally reachable infrastructure rather than inability to obtain more.
• Multiple comments explain that IPv4 is still obtainable via RIR policies, transfers, or leases; national actors could get more if desired.
• Routing patterns are seen as largely driven by geography (land borders with China/Russia, rail/road fiber corridors) but also aligned with political relationships.

Fiber Optic Deployment & Railroad Evidence

• Several comments affirm that small trackside boxes are compatible with fiber: modern fiber tolerates tight bend radii, and modest enclosures suffice for splices.
• Burying fiber is viewed as more work upfront but more robust than aerial deployment (less exposure to weather, animals, and “flying backhoes”).
• Running fiber along rail rights-of-way is considered standard practice globally.
• One commenter finds the article’s railroad-based inference weak, arguing true repeater sites should be larger and that the photos could just show generic railway equipment.

Cyber Operations & Regime Context

• Posters debate why DPRK appears prominent in cybercrime:
  • Some emphasize pariah status, sanctions, and the regime’s need for hard currency, which lower the cost of engaging in criminal hacking.
  • Others argue most large states could do similar things but refrain due to reputational and legal constraints.
  • Disagreement over the degree of coercion vs incentive (e.g., “do this or your family suffers” vs simply offering relatively high local wages).
• There is skepticism that DPRK hackers are uniquely “elite”; some see them more as well-resourced scammers and APT operators, comparable to other state or tolerated-criminal groups.

Historical and Moral Debates

• Long, contentious subthread on:
  • Responsibility for DPRK’s current state (US bombing and partition vs DPRK leadership and Soviet/Chinese roles).
  • Whether more aggressive US action in Korea or against China/USSR (including hypothetical nuclear use) would have prevented later suffering or instead led to far greater catastrophe.
  • Comparisons between DPRK’s internal atrocities and US-led wars abroad, with some arguing Western crimes receive too little scrutiny.
• No consensus emerges; positions range from viewing DPRK as a uniquely egregious failure of humanity to seeing it as one example among many great-power-inflicted tragedies.

Miscellaneous

• One commenter notes that North Korea’s national standard (KPS 9566) contributed several Unicode emojis, including hot beverage, umbrella with rain, and lightning bolt.

GrapheneOS and Patch Timing

• Commenters note GrapheneOS had already patched the relevant CVEs months earlier on its security preview channel (September/October), ahead of Google’s public Pixel rollout.
• This is used to argue that even a small team can ship Android security fixes quickly if they prioritize it.

Pixel and Samsung Update Delays

• Several Pixel owners report not seeing the “rushed” December update, needing tricks like double-tapping “Check for update” or manually sideloading OTA images. Carriers (e.g., T‑Mobile) are blamed for lag in approvals.
• Samsung is criticized for not even having November patches on many devices, with only major flagships current. Some see this as effectively reserving security for higher-end buyers.

OEM Fragmentation vs. Responsibility

• One side argues Samsung’s many models and heavy Android customization make fast patching difficult; each variant is almost its own OS.
• Others counter this is self‑inflicted: if you ship 50 models, you must budget to maintain 50; PC and Linux ecosystems manage far more hardware.
• Closed, non-upstreamed drivers are identified as a core cause of slow updates and poor long-term support.

Threat Model and Exploit Details

• Linked CVEs describe local privilege escalation (e.g., adding a device owner post‑provisioning, launching activities from the background) and at least one critical Dolby audio RCE.
• Many say risk is mainly from malicious or compromised apps rather than web content; if you don’t install “crap,” risk is lower but not zero, because trusted apps can be updated with payloads or embed shady ad SDKs.
• Some think the focus on this bug is overblown relative to more common phishing/scam attacks; others stress that modern RCE often leads to quiet botnet/“residential VPN” enrollment, not obvious malware.

Sideloading, Play Store, and Play Integrity

• Debate over whether this specific attack realistically requires sideloaded APKs; unclear from public info.
• Google’s app scanning and store review are called “security theater” compared to curated repos (e.g., F‑Droid, Linux distros).
• Play Integrity is widely criticized as serving Google’s business interests rather than user security, since very old unpatched devices can still pass.

Custom ROMs, Unlocking, and Device Longevity

• Strong sentiment that users should have a legal right to unlock bootloaders and install alternate OSes (GrapheneOS, LineageOS), especially once vendor support ends.
• LineageOS’s support for hundreds of devices is cited to show that multi‑device security maintenance is feasible.
• Banking apps and contactless payments on custom ROMs are described as a cat‑and‑mouse game, though some report success with specific banks and wearable‑based payments.

Samsung and UX / Ecosystem Critique

• Samsung is characterized by several as “user hostile”: aggressive bloatware, nagging, fragmented companion apps, and artificially limited features (e.g., watch features tied to Samsung phones).
• Others still choose Samsung for unique hardware (stylus devices) or price, despite poor update discipline.

Meta: OS Monoculture and Fuchsia Tangent

• Frustration that mainstream users effectively have only two mobile OS choices; some lament limited flagship options in the US versus Asia.
• A substantial side thread digresses into the spelling, pronunciation, and etymology of “Fuchsia,” lightly mocking Google’s naming and English orthography.

Pricing, Value, and Discounts

• Many consider the current $500/year list price unjustifiable, especially for slow readers or light users.
• Several commenters are grandfathered on older plans ($199–$300/year, some “indefinite” promo pricing) and say it’s worth it at those rates, but they would not subscribe at today’s prices.
• Some see strong value in being able to skim multiple books on a topic before committing, especially for fast-changing tech, and feel $500 still pays off.
• Others argue it’s cheaper and psychologically healthier to just buy a few targeted books per year instead of feeling pressured to “get their money’s worth” from a subscription.

Institutional Access and Alternatives

• Many get O’Reilly through:
  • ACM membership + skills add‑on (much cheaper than list price, though some report more limited access vs direct subs).
  • Public libraries (multiple cities mentioned) and university libraries via SSO; often full catalog but weaker personalization/progress tracking.
  • Employers, departments, or veteran benefits.
• Cyber Monday and recurring sales often bring the annual rate down to ~$300.
• Alternatives mentioned: Manning’s all‑you‑can‑eat subscription (DRM‑free, praised UX), Humble Bundle/Fanatical tech bundles, and simply buying physical or DRM‑free ebooks.

App, UX, and DRM Concerns

• The O’Reilly mobile app is widely criticized as “unusable”: crashes, poor rendering of code, broken bookmarks/collections, weak text‑to‑speech, and inability to export epubs.
• Several people rely on the web reader instead, which is considered acceptable but still inferior to a good PDF/ebook reader.
• Strong sentiment against subscription‑only access and DRM; some long‑time customers stopped buying when direct DRM‑free sales disappeared or became harder to access.

Changing Tech-Book Ecosystem and LLMs

• Reports of significant industry decline (e.g., large drops in non‑fiction sales, Pragmatic Bookshelf troubles) spark discussion about the future of technical books.
• Explanations debated: competition from LLMs and web content, proliferation of low‑effort/LLM‑assisted ebooks, shorter shelf life of tech topics, and end of employer‑funded perks.
• Several argue curated, long‑form material remains crucial for “big picture” learning and for countering online/LLM misinformation, even if people increasingly reach first for chatbots and Stack Overflow.

Format Preferences and Reading Habits

• Commenters split between:
  • Heavy buyers of physical books (annotation, multiple open at once, better retention).
  • Readers happy with DRM‑free PDFs/epubs and tablets.
• Many say they now buy far fewer tech books, relying more on docs, blogs, and occasional high‑quality titles instead of broad subscriptions.

Privacy, “Anonymization,” and Trust

• Many see this as confirmation that Uber will “go to any depth” to monetize users, not a new direction. Several are surprised it wasn’t already openly happening.
• Debate centers on whether aggregated / anonymized data is meaningfully safer than individual-level data.
  • One side: properly aggregated data is vastly less harmful than full profiles; equating them is a false equivalence.
  • Other side: “when done properly” is doing heavy lifting; real-world deanonymization of mobility datasets is common and often trivial when cross-referenced with other sources.
• Uber’s “clean room” arrangement is viewed skeptically; posters expect any privacy–utility tradeoff to be resolved in favor of advertisers, not users.

Advertising, Paid Services, and Being “the Product”

• Strong sentiment that paying does not stop companies from monetizing behavior; users of Prime, Crave, Uber, etc. report paying and still getting ads and data exploitation.
• Discussion over whether people actually care about data monetization:
  • Some argue most users object to ads mainly because they’re annoying, not because of tracking.
  • Others say people would care if they understood the implications, but are underinformed and see little credible way to buy privacy.
• “Vote with your wallet” is challenged: in markets where Uber has quasi-monopoly power, opting out is seen as impractical or symbolic.

Economics of Ads and Targeting

• Commenters note that users who pay to remove ads self-identify as high-disposable-income, making them more valuable to advertisers.
• Some ad-tech and marketing perspectives are shared: platforms price ads differently by device, audience, and context; premium, hard-to-reach segments are especially prized.

Personalization vs. Exploitation

• A minority explicitly want better, more personalized in-app suggestions (e.g., restaurants) and are willing to trade some data for convenience.
• Others argue “good recommendations” are really those that maximize advertiser revenue, not user welfare, and fear mobility data being used for behavioral prediction, price discrimination, or even political surveillance.

Alternatives, Regulation, and Public Use of Data

• Some vow to switch to taxis, local car services, or competitors like Waymo; others suggest piracy and self-hosted media as the only real escape from ad-driven models.
• Calls for stronger regulation: treating personal data as property requiring explicit, compensated, opt-in consent; skepticism about both libertarian “markets will fix it” and naive “regulation will fix it” views.
• A few propose mandating (properly anonymized) ride data sharing with local governments for transit planning, but others question both anonymization feasibility and government capacity to use it.

Corporate messaging and hiding the numbers

• Many see the move from a quantitative diversity report to “stories and videos” as deliberate obfuscation.
• This is compared to return‑to‑office justifications: lots of “connection and collaboration” rhetoric, no hard data.
• Some suspect the change is to avoid showing regression or politically sensitive numbers (e.g., very high Asian representation vs US population).

Political and regulatory pressure

• Several comments frame the shift as capitulation to the current presidential administration and Justice Department, which can harass or disadvantage firms.
• Others argue companies are using “pressure from the administration” as convenient cover to exit culture‑war commitments they already wanted to escape.
• Federal contracting is highlighted: with hundreds of billions at stake, not aligning with government preferences is seen as irrational.

Profit motives and culture-war positioning

• Broad agreement that large corporations care primarily about shareholder value.
• DEI/ESG is described as a fad: pushed when it generated goodwill and marketing value (e.g., BLM-era gestures), now cut as a cost or liability.
• Some argue culture-war moves (both “woke” and anti‑woke) are just cheap ways to attract attention and short‑term goodwill.

Debate over DEI’s value and implementation

• Critics say DEI often becomes tokenism, quota pressure, and promotion of underqualified people, harming projects and morale.
• Supporters say this misreads the goal: to counter preexisting bias, “old boys’ clubs,” and nepotism so the most qualified can actually win.
• There’s acknowledgment that implementations can be dysfunctional (consultant‑driven PR, internal fiefdoms) even if the underlying aim is valid.
• Some suggest blind or bias‑reduced hiring as a more meritocratic alternative that still improves inclusion.

Meritocracy, quotas, and pipelines

• One camp claims any explicit diversity targeting means you’re no longer optimizing purely for “best candidate.”
• Others respond that “best” is multidimensional (collaboration, culture, etc.) and that tech’s tilt toward certain demographics shows it wasn’t meritocratic to begin with.
• Pipeline fixes (early education, outreach) are proposed; critics worry this slides toward corporate control of schooling.

Performance reviews and workplace climate

• The now‑dropped review prompt “What impact did your actions have on diversity and inclusion?” is widely described as vague and stressful.
• Some say promotions genuinely depended on having a DEI answer; others considered it a box‑ticking exercise, easily gamed.
• Supporters argue it’s analogous to asking how you supported uptime or team health: joining ERGs, mentoring, inclusive social planning, and intervening on biased hiring.
• Skeptics worry it acts as an ideological litmus test with ill‑defined expectations, beyond normal “don’t be hostile” standards.
• One trans commenter notes that walking DEI back makes them less willing to come out at work.

Legal risks and shifting norms

• Several note that certain DEI practices are increasingly being treated as unlawful discrimination under civil rights law.
• There is dispute over whether DEI violates those laws or is required to counter de facto discrimination.
• A minority view is that little of value is lost; others fear genuine equality and inclusion efforts will be chilled along with superficial signaling.