Giant 'sand battery' holds a week's heat for a whole town
Overview of the sand battery concept
- Thread discusses large sand-based thermal storage used with district heating, storing excess/cheap electricity as high‑temperature heat (up to ~600°C) for later use.
- It’s framed as “old tech in a new configuration”: resistive heating, insulation, and inert granular material in a big silo.
- Several commenters see it as particularly well-suited for town- or grid-scale heat storage, less so for individual homes where better insulation and smaller hot‑water tanks may be more practical.
Why sand instead of water or other media
- Water has much higher specific heat capacity and is cheaper and easier to pump.
- However:
- Water is limited to ~100°C in unpressurized systems; sand can go to 500–1200°C, enabling higher energy density per volume via temperature range.
- High‑temperature water needs pressure vessels and serious safety engineering; superheated water can explode and corrodes/rots plumbing.
- Sand (or crushed rock/soapstone) is inert, non-pressurized, doesn’t freeze or boil in normal operation, and has low maintenance.
- Commenters note sand’s lower thermal conductivity: it loses heat more slowly to the environment but requires careful pipe layout to charge/discharge.
Comparisons to other storage approaches
- Ice/water “cold batteries” (e.g., IceBear) and chilled-water tanks: good for shifting A/C load but mostly an energy cost optimization; may face maintenance issues and competition from batteries and PV.
- Molten salt in CSP, graphite/bricks, aluminum-based blocks, Feolite, and building thermal mass (masonry, phase change materials) are discussed as related or alternative thermal storage.
- Water tanks and underground/soil heat storage (seasonal) are already used in some communities and experimental homes.
Economics, grid, and use cases
- Sand storage is seen as cheap per kWh of heat, especially when filled with industrial byproducts (e.g., crushed soapstone) that might otherwise incur disposal costs.
- Best fit is storing surplus/negative-priced or otherwise wasted renewable/industrial heat, not maximizing round‑trip electric efficiency.
- Some argue that PV+batteries or PV+heat pumps can outcompete solar-thermal in many residential cases; others highlight lifecycle and ecological advantages of direct thermal systems.
Concerns, open questions, and broader context
- Questions raised about heat losses, turbine integration (for electricity), cyclone separators and grit in turbines, and sand sourcing in some regions.
- Discussion touches on European prevalence of district heating, older housing stock, higher energy costs, and policy as reasons such systems advance faster there than in much of the US.