Student debt is haunting Americans from graduation to retirement

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Cost, Value, and ROI of Degrees

  • Strong debate over whether expensive universities and high debt are “worth it.”
  • Many argue STEM (esp. doctors, engineers, CS) can service even large debts due to high pay; others counter that many science majors (e.g., biology, chemistry, lab work) are low-paid and struggle.
  • Liberal arts are frequently criticized as low-ROI, but several point out many “liberal arts” graduates are essential workers (teachers, social workers, librarians, mental health, etc.) who are simply underpaid.
  • Some note the real worst outcomes are “some college, no degree”: most of the cost, few of the benefits.

Medical and Professional School Debt

  • Data is cited showing very high average medical school debt.
  • One camp: doctors earn enough to pay it off in a few frugal years.
  • Other camp: interest accrual during low-paid residency, delayed family formation, and lifestyle tradeoffs are non-trivial.

Systemic vs Personal Responsibility

  • One side emphasizes personal responsibility: 18-year-olds chose degrees with poor job prospects and large loans.
  • Others stress systemic failure: aggressive cultural pressure to attend college, poor financial literacy, and a loan system that enables bad decisions by design.
  • Widespread concern that student loan forgiveness without structural reform is unfair to frugal students and non-graduates.

Role of Government, Universities, and Employers

  • Government-guaranteed, non-dischargeable loans seen as a core driver of tuition inflation and oversupply of credentials.
  • Some want universities (especially with big endowments) to hold more risk or provide their own financing.
  • Others argue higher education should be a largely public, subsidized service, like K–12.
  • Employers/HR blamed for over-reliance on degrees as a cheap, legally safe filter, even for jobs not needing them.

Policy Ideas and Disagreements

  • Proposed fixes: allow bankruptcy for student loans, cap or differentiate loans by major/expected earnings, claw back from predatory schools, expand public-service forgiveness, or move to free/low-cost public college.
  • Dispute over whether broad debt relief is justified or creates moral hazard.
  • Some highlight macro effects: delayed family formation, home ownership, and broader economic drag from indebted younger generations.