Debugging the Doctor Brain: Who's teaching doctors how to think?
Medical training and practice are under scrutiny as clinicians, patients, and technologists question whether doctors are really taught how to think, or just how to pass weed‑out courses and follow protocols. Commenters contrast younger and older physicians, pointing to gaps in feedback loops, continuing education, institutional culture, and the distorting influence of insurance companies and hospital administrators on clinical judgment. Many see potential for AI and better educational design to improve reasoning and keep knowledge current, but warn that systemic incentives, burnout, and prestige-driven gatekeeping still dominate how doctors are selected, trained, and evaluated.
Quality and Experience of Doctors
- Several commenters perceive newer doctors, especially in Canada, as better trained and more up to date than older ones.
- Others note research suggesting older physicians can have worse outcomes in some specialties, but emphasize that experience and stable “standard of care” for common problems still matter.
- Concern that 30–40 years of experience using outdated techniques may not translate into better care, especially in fields that have advanced rapidly.
Feedback Loops and Evidence in Practice
- Surgeons and GPs often get delayed, noisy feedback on outcomes; linking a specific decision to a death years later is hard.
- Some systems notify primary doctors of hospitalizations and deaths and hold morbidity and mortality conferences, but how deeply this informs practice varies.
- Commenters stress reliance on large trials and evidence-based medicine because individual-case feedback is unreliable.
Long COVID and Patient-Driven Ideas
- One patient describes years of pushback before their doctor took viral persistence seriously; sees patients as helping drive physician thinking, but very slowly.
- Disagreement over how much evidence existed in 2020–2021. Links to early long-COVID and viral-persistence work are provided.
- Some mention self-sourcing antivirals abroad; others question specific choices (e.g., Paxlovid for long COVID) but note emerging trial rationales.
Training, Weed-Out Culture, and How Doctors Learn
- Debate over “weed-out” courses like organic chemistry: some see them as necessary filters for a prestigious, capacity-limited profession; others argue they wrongly equate fast initial understanding with long-term mastery.
- Critique of medical curricula: heavy early basic science divorced from clinical relevance, then later disease/treatment blocks. Proposals for “vertical slice” teaching that integrates basic science with a small set of core diagnoses early.
- Observations that residency evaluation can be biased: residents get labeled “good” or “bad” early, confidence is mistaken for competence, and introverts are penalized.
Hospital Economics, Residency Funding, and Work Conditions
- Anger at large per-resident funding versus relatively low resident salaries; some call it “fraud,” others point to legitimate overhead, supervision, and malpractice costs.
- Nonprofit hospitals are criticized for high executive pay, seen as a de facto profit extraction mechanism.
- Widespread reports of burnout among nurses and residents, with hospitals treating staff as fungible and relying on overwork rather than hiring more.
Insurance, MBAs, and System Design
- In the US, insurance and malpractice risk heavily shape testing and treatment: some patients see under-testing “because of costs,” others see aggressive testing when coverage is good.
- Some argue this is just supply-and-demand equilibrium for labor; others blame MBAs and fee-for-service incentives for turning hospitals into “for-profit assembly lines,” even when nominally nonprofit.
- Similar overwork and per-patient incentives are reported in Canada and elsewhere, not just in the US.
Continuing Education and Staying Current
- In the US, doctors must earn continuing medical education credits, often via conferences and board recertification exams.
- Commenters question the rigor and independence of CME, view some recertification as a money grab, and note that a few short courses cannot fully retrain older clinicians on new paradigms.
AI, “Vibes,” and the Future Role of Doctors
- Some predict that well-designed systems will eventually replace most non-research doctors, highlighting machines’ potential for always-updated knowledge and lack of fatigue.
- Practicing clinicians push back, emphasizing tacit pattern recognition (“vibes”), real-time observation, and complex, weakly data-driven judgment, especially in acute settings like anesthesia.
- Consensus leans toward AI as a powerful assistive tool rather than a near-term replacement.
Teaching “How to Think”
- Several comments argue that medicine (and education generally) rarely teaches thinking directly; instead, it teaches tasks and assumes thinking will emerge.
- Suggested ingredients for “thinking training”: problem decomposition, hypothesis testing, comfort with uncertainty, awareness of cognitive biases, and metacognitive skills (e.g., spaced repetition and semantic encoding).
- Humanities and certain psychology-of-learning courses are cited as traditional or effective venues for this, but seen as underused in current medical training.
Systemic Issues and Rare Conditions
- Overwork and hazing culture in training are criticized as harmful to performance but persistent.
- A patient with a rare disease describes long delays in diagnosis due to rigid adherence to “common things are common,” illustrating how system pressures and heuristics can fail outliers.