Frozen human brain tissue was successfully revived for the first time
Scope of the Experiment
- Commenters stress the result is about small organoids and tiny pieces of human brain tissue surviving freezing, not “reviving” whole brains.
- A 3 mm cube of tissue from a 9‑month‑old epilepsy patient kept structure and activity for at least two weeks post‑thaw.
- Some note that freezing/thawing brain organoids is already fairly routine; the novelty is in details of viability, not in “bringing brains back.”
Cryonics and Organ Preservation
- One thread claims small mammals (e.g., hamsters) have survived extreme cooling, with a cited paper; others argue this is more “extreme hypothermia” than true whole-body cryogenic freezing and revival.
- Many see this work as a step toward better organ preservation and transport (e.g., kidneys across long distances, ECMO-like support for isolated organs) rather than human immortality.
- There is debate over the economic burden of current treatments (like dialysis) and the potential savings from reliable organ storage.
Consciousness and Ethical Concerns
- Some are uneasy about whether isolated brain tissue or organoids might be conscious, given uncertainty about how much brain is needed for subjective experience.
- Others argue it’s unlikely these samples have anything like normal circuitry or function; they’re “alive but perturbed.”
- Long subthreads debate:
- Whether consciousness requires being embedded in a body and environment vs. being purely brain-based.
- Whether swapping body vs. swapping brain would preserve personal identity.
- Comparisons to neural networks (pruning, representation limits) and mind-uploading; skepticism that current LLMs can emulate full human brains.
- Panpsychism‑style ideas (e.g., “conscious rocks”) are generally dismissed as unsupported.
Sleep Paralysis and “Awake but Trapped” States
- A side discussion explores sleep paralysis as an example of consciousness with minimal control or input.
- Multiple people recount vivid episodes: open eyes, inability to move or speak, intense fear, hallucinated presences.
- Explanations center on REM atonia persisting into wakefulness; some speculate about roles of sleep position, oxygenation, and neurotransmitters.
Societal and Sci‑Fi Reflections
- Commenters imagine future scenarios: frozen people revived centuries later, legal/contractual abuse (forced immortality), integration issues analogous to refugees.
- Others push back that such plots are more social commentary than prediction.