Israel reportedly used fake social accounts to garner support from US lawmakers
Scope of Israel’s Online Influence Campaign
- Article describes Israeli-run fake social accounts targeting US lawmakers and US audiences; many commenters say this is unsurprising and fits modern information warfare.
- Some see it as part of a broader, organized “hasbara” ecosystem (AIPAC, public diplomacy units, previous social media efforts); others stress that many states, including allies, run influence operations.
Effectiveness and Targets
- Several argue such bot campaigns are likely ineffective on members of Congress, who delegate social media and respond more to lobbying, calls, and donations.
- Others counter that the true targets are:
- Staffers, consultants, and pollsters.
- “Low-information” voters who shape the climate around lawmakers.
- Social media platforms where volume can manufacture apparent consensus.
- There is disagreement on whether current Israeli propaganda is sophisticated or “obvious and clumsy.”
Comparisons to Other Countries
- Many draw parallels to Russian, Chinese, Iranian, Qatari, and British WWII propaganda.
- Some say US interference abroad dwarfs others, and that “everyone does it”; others respond that doing it to your top ally’s lawmakers (while receiving large US aid) is different in kind.
Lobbying, Dual Loyalty, and Antisemitism
- A large subthread debates:
- AIPAC’s outsized role in US primaries and donations.
- Whether any US lawmakers are dual US–Israeli citizens (several say current evidence points to none).
- Israel’s Law of Return vs. actual citizenship.
- Some see criticism of AIPAC and “dual citizens” as veering into antisemitic “dual loyalty” tropes; others insist the core issue is foreign influence, not Jewish identity.
Broader Propaganda & Information-Warfare Context
- Commenters link this to:
- Cyber commands and “fifth-generation warfare.”
- Historical media manipulation (Manufacturing Consent, Iraq War coverage, Bernays/PR).
- The ease, scale, and low cost of social media propaganda vs. earlier eras.
- Several stress that propaganda often leverages existing strong opinions rather than changing minds from scratch.
HN Moderation & Meta
- Multiple comments note Israel/Gaza threads getting rapidly flagged.
- A moderator explains that:
- Political stories, especially on this conflict, are frequently flagged by users.
- Mods selectively unflag some when there’s significant new information and potential for substantive discussion, to keep HN from being overwhelmed by politics.