Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures
Overall Impressions of the Yamanote Line
- Widely praised as extremely frequent, reliable, and easy to use, especially for tourists.
- Trains during rush hour arrive roughly every 2 minutes (sometimes effectively double that due to parallel lines) yet are still heavily crowded.
- Many find the crush-load rush hour uncomfortable; taller or claustrophobic riders have mixed reactions.
- Some describe looping the line by bike or walking as a way to appreciate Tokyo’s diversity.
Capacity, Trains vs Cars, and Network Design
- Multiple comments contrast Yamanote’s capacity with highways:
- At peak, a fully-used double-track metro can move tens of thousands of people per hour per direction, far beyond any realistic road lane equivalent.
- Yamanote is mostly paralleled by other lines (Keihin-Tōhoku, Saikyō, Shōnan-Shinjuku, etc.), plus express services, yet many lines still hit or exceed nominal capacity.
- Discussion notes that rail also suffers from induced demand; adding capacity eventually fills up in megacities.
- Examples from Paris and Montreal used to show that even very high-capacity lines can saturate, requiring new lines or extra tracks.
Funding, Fares, and Privatization
- Debate over “free transit”:
- Some argue fully free systems become politically vulnerable and lose a meaningful revenue stream.
- Others note many US systems (e.g., LA Metro) already have very low farebox recovery, so slashing fares might be reasonable for low-income riders.
- Japanese context:
- Many lines are operated by private or privatized railways (JR companies, Tokyu, Hankyu, etc.).
- Operators are deeply integrated with real estate and retail; some say they are essentially property companies that run trains to feed their developments.
- Employers often cover workers’ commute passes, making trains de facto free to many riders.
Urban Form, Cars, and Policy
- Japan’s high tolls, expensive parking, and requirement to prove a parking space before car ownership make driving less attractive.
- In Tokyo, many people simply don’t own cars; companies provide transit passes rather than parking.
- Observers contrast this with US cities where free or mandated parking undermines transit.
Culture and Daily Experience
- Onboard behavior:
- Trains are quiet; most riders are on phones, reading, studying, listening to music, or sleeping.
- This is framed as a continuation of pre-smartphone habits (books, pocket-sized novels), not a uniquely new phenomenon.
- Avoiding eye contact and “not observing people” is described as intentional etiquette in packed cars.
- Some see heavy phone use as alienating; others argue it’s a practical coping mechanism in dense crowds.
Work Patterns and Congestion
- Suggestions include staggering business hours or expanding remote work to reduce peak loads.
- Commenters note:
- Only a minority of jobs can be fully remote.
- School traffic and non-work trips significantly contribute to rush hour congestion.
History and “Oldest Line” Claim
- Several question the article’s claim that Yamanote is Tokyo’s “oldest” line.
- Other lines and earlier routes (e.g., to Yokohama, the Ginza subway) are cited; whether “oldest” refers to type, corridor, or continuous operation is left unclear.